A fairly large SDL project

SDL Development
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We just released Exult 0.26, an Ultima7 game engine using SDL that
provides a fairly large example of 2D and palette animations that can be
done. Source and Win32 binaries are at exult.sourceforge.net.

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I’d just like to say Exult kicks ass. I’d volunteer time if I had any.

m.On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:13:55AM -0700, Jeff Freedman wrote:

We just released Exult 0.26, an Ultima7 game engine using SDL that
provides a fairly large example of 2D and palette animations that can be
done. Source and Win32 binaries are at exult.sourceforge.net.

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We just released Exult 0.26, an Ultima7 game engine using SDL that
provides a fairly large example of 2D and palette animations that can be
done. Source and Win32 binaries are at exult.sourceforge.net.

I’d just like to say Exult kicks ass. I’d volunteer time if I had any.

Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux Games haven’t
tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like Warcraft II
and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying Blizzard/Origin for
the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

How did I guess that you’d like this sort of thing, Mike? (I’m still waiting
for a free Linux engine for Master of Magic!)

m.

Nicho>On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:13:55AM -0700, Jeff Freedman wrote:

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We just released Exult 0.26, an Ultima7 game engine using SDL that
provides a fairly large example of 2D and palette animations that can be
done. Source and Win32 binaries are at exult.sourceforge.net.

I’d just like to say Exult kicks ass. I’d volunteer time if I had any.

Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux Games haven’t
tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like Warcraft II
and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying Blizzard/Origin for
the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

How did I guess that you’d like this sort of thing, Mike? (I’m still waiting
for a free Linux engine for Master of Magic!)

What do you think Loki does? :)On Wed, 10 May 2000, you wrote:

On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:13:55AM -0700, Jeff Freedman wrote:

m.

Nicho
–
“I know not with what weapons World War Three will be fought, but I
know World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones.” –
Einstein

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vining at pacificcoast.net wrote:

Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux Games haven’t
tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like Warcraft II
and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying Blizzard/Origin for
the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

Not a bad idea. I’ve thought of contacting Origin; but they don’t even
exist as a separate entity anymore, being completely absorbed by EA.
I’m also a little worried that their reaction might be to threaten to
sue me. Of course, I wouldn’t mind if they’d throw some money our way
…

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Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux Games
haven’t

tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like Warcraft
II

and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying Blizzard/Origin
for

the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

What do you think Loki does? :slight_smile:

Definitely not that – their sources aren’t GPLed, and they work from the
original files instead of making it up as they go along. (In most cases)

I’m saying, what if we took FreeCraft or AleClone or whatever it is, paired
it up with the data files from Warcraft II with permission of the vendor
(Blizzard) and hocked that.

Nicholas

----- Original Message -----
From: qtmstr@optonline.net (Danny Colascione)
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [SDL] A fairly large SDL project

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They will never let you do such a thing because they thing that you
are an enemy, someone that are going to take them users.

(Doing such a thing you are going to take them out a lot of clients)

When people get power they start to see enemy in every place.

But anyway , try iy.

Miguel.
http://www.arianne.cx

Quoting Nicholas Vining :>

-----Original Message-----
From: QuoteMstr
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [SDL] A fairly large SDL project

Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux
Games
haven’t

tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like
Warcraft
II

and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying
Blizzard/Origin
for

the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

What do you think Loki does? :slight_smile:

Definitely not that – their sources aren’t GPLed, and they work
from the
original files instead of making it up as they go along. (In most
cases)

I’m saying, what if we took FreeCraft or AleClone or whatever it is,
paired
it up with the data files from Warcraft II with permission of the
vendor
(Blizzard) and hocked that.

Nicholas

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Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux Games
haven’t

tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like Warcraft
II

and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying Blizzard/Origin
for

the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

What do you think Loki does? :slight_smile:

Definitely not that – their sources aren’t GPLed, and they work from the
original files instead of making it up as they go along. (In most cases)

I’m saying, what if we took FreeCraft or AleClone or whatever it is, paired
it up with the data files from Warcraft II with permission of the vendor
(Blizzard) and hocked that.

Would the free engines be capable of phrasing the Warcraft II, etc. data files?On Wed, 10 May 2000, you wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: QuoteMstr <@Danny_Colascione>
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [SDL] A fairly large SDL project

Nicholas
–
“I know not with what weapons World War Three will be fought, but I
know World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones.” –
Einstein

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QuoteMstr wrote:> On Wed, 10 May 2000, you wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: QuoteMstr
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [SDL] A fairly large SDL project

Actually, I’m surprised that Linux Game Distributors like Tux Games
haven’t

tried to start building and selling Linux versions of games like Warcraft
II

and Ultima 7 by using the free GPLed engines, then paying Blizzard/Origin
for

the rights to put the data files onto the CD.

What do you think Loki does? :slight_smile:

Definitely not that – their sources aren’t GPLed, and they work from the
original files instead of making it up as they go along. (In most cases)

I’m saying, what if we took FreeCraft or AleClone or whatever it is, paired
it up with the data files from Warcraft II with permission of the vendor
(Blizzard) and hocked that.

Would the free engines be capable of phrasing the Warcraft II, etc. data files?

phrasing? if you mean parsing, then yes, that’s what they do. they’re made
specifically for the original data files.

speaking of this topic, who maintains the SDL version of Hexen? There’s some bugs
I need to report on it…

Sean Middleditch

Nicholas
–
“I know not with what weapons World War Three will be fought, but I
know World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones.” –
Einstein

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QuoteMstr wrote:

Would the free engines be capable of phrasing the Warcraft II, etc. data files?

Do you mean ‘parsing’? If so, the answer is ‘yes’, at least for Exult.
In fact, most of Ultima7’s plot is scripted in a file called ‘usecode’,
which is a binary byte-code file similar to Java. So Exult doesn’t just
parse it, but interprets it with its own virtual machine.> On Wed, 10 May 2000, you wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: QuoteMstr

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i get “server not found” when i try and go to exult.sourceforge.net

is that just me?

“Jeff Freedman” wrote in message
news:39198AC3.ECB340E2 at simutech.com…> We just released Exult 0.26, an Ultima7 game engine using SDL that

provides a fairly large example of 2D and palette animations that can be
done. Source and Win32 binaries are at exult.sourceforge.net.

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Michael Vance wrote:

I’d just like to say Exult kicks ass. I’d volunteer time if I had any.

Thanks! I’d volunteer to work at Loki (seriously!) if it didn’t involve
moving back to S. California.

– Jeff (still remembering my commute from Van Nuys to Costa Mesa when
working for FileNet)

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correction…it works now. please forgive my foolishness

“Luke Bond” <@Luke_Bond> wrote in message
news:8fd4ff$44h$1 at ftp.lokigames.com…> i get “server not found” when i try and go to exult.sourceforge.net

is that just me?

“Jeff Freedman” wrote in message
news:39198AC3.ECB340E2 at simutech.com…

We just released Exult 0.26, an Ultima7 game engine using SDL that
provides a fairly large example of 2D and palette animations that can be
done. Source and Win32 binaries are at exult.sourceforge.net.

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Hola Miguel, soy Ivan o Wing Extrem de WILD BITS, a lo mejor nos has
visto por algunas Partys. Te escrivo este emilio por que necesito ayuda con el
SDL, y como te vi en una lista de correo del SDL, pues si quieres me ayudas.

Primero que todo decir que el SDL me parece estupendo, es una libreria

muy potente y facil de comprender, no como el DirectX no se si lo has usado…
De todas formas, yo ahora, estoy programando en Linux…

Mi problema es que el SDL no me da casi ninguna capacidad, como las de

superficies por hardware ni doblebuffer. Y te aseguro que no es falta de
memoria, tengo una RivaTNT, lo prob? con una S3 y tampoco funcionaba.

El otro problema, que puede sonar a novato, es el de cambiar el modo en

Linux dentro del programa de SDL en fullscreen, en DirectX no se podia hacer a
no ser que declararas tu programa en modo exclusivo, aqu? hay algo parecido?

Gracias. Estoy encantado de conocer a otra gente que trabaja con el SDL.


Ivan Carlos Lausuch Sales

Wing Extrem of WILD BITS & UNREALITY DREAMS
Coder & 3D artist