Hi,
Few days ago, Sam and SDL team talked about a style for the libsdl.org
site.
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.
I could install one in PHP but only at the beginning of January.
So let me tell ya !
Bye
Lawouach
If you agree of course Sam !
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.
What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
You can have a way to post to the list from a web page if you want.
Orthogonally, a better archive interface would be nice. The current
interface puts all messages on one huge page, which is slow to load
and has actually killed some versions of Netscape. Also, the search
facility seems slightly buggy.
A good searchable and browsable archive at least gives us somewhere
to point people asking old questions to
Mattias Engdeg?rd wrote:
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
It would allow me to post from any email client, not only the one from which
I registered for the mailing list. It would allow someone to easily see
which topics have had recent replies. Plus, I’ve experienced faster
turn-around times with web-based messaging over email, no more getting mails
4 days late. I’m voting for the phorums if you couldn’t tell yet.
At 11:41 12/12/00 -0500, Mark Kimsal wrote:
Mattias Engdeg?rd wrote:
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
Advantage of mailing-list:
Advantage of phorum: none.
and I mean it:
posting from another email address: fake email is nice. And any decent
mailer can do it. or telnet on port 25
see topic which have recent replies: isn’t that a mail archive, with
threaded views ? or just the way your local mail folder is sorted ?
speed: well, this is really “subjective”.
I’d rather check my email than start netscape, go to the web site, mumble
because the damn network is so slow tonight, wait for the complete page to be
downloaded, then browse to see where was the last article I’ve seen, and read
it from here… (this is indeed the BIG problem with forum on the web: or you
read them every minute, or you have to click around to read the last answer to
that interesting Dreamcast thread)
If you really want a “forum” for a reason I don’t get, then don’t do it the web
way. NNTP is so much better: it actually works.–
jm
Mark Kimsal wrote:
Mattias Engdeg?rd wrote:
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
It would allow me to post from any email client, not only the one from which
I registered for the mailing list. It would allow someone to easily see
which topics have had recent replies. Plus, I’ve experienced faster
turn-around times with web-based messaging over email, no more getting mails
4 days late. I’m voting for the phorums if you couldn’t tell yet.
Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?
Sean Etc.
What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
It would allow me to post from any email client, not only the one from which
I registered for the mailing list.
How does a mailing list restrict your choice of mail user agent?
On the contrary, can I read a web-based forum with my MUA of choice?
It would allow someone to easily see
which topics have had recent replies.
You can do that with a good MUA, or a decent list archive if you prefer a
web-based solution
Plus, I’ve experienced faster
turn-around times with web-based messaging over email, no more getting mails
4 days late. I’m voting for the phorums if you couldn’t tell yet.
That is a list server issue. The one used right now is a bit rough
Hi,
Few days ago, Sam and SDL team talked about a style for the libsdl.org
site.And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.
Ugh. Web forums. My vote is: nay! 
-bill!
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.
I don’t think webforums are such a good idea for a list like this.
However I would be happy if someone would make it possible to receive the
list as MIME-digest. I currently have 9300+ messges from this list in my
MH folder, and as all of you who has used MH know, this is getting slow.
FrankRL–
“I’ll carry your books, I’ll carry a tune, I’ll carry on, carry over,
carry forward, Cary Grant, cash & carry, Carry Me Back To Old
Virginia, I’ll even Hara Kari if you show me how, but I will not
carry a gun.” – Hawkeye, MAS*H
Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?
By the way, the SDL mailing list is gatewayed to a newsgroup:
news://news.lokigames.com/loki.open-source.sdl
See ya!
-Sam Lantinga, Lead Programmer, Loki Entertainment Software
Sam Lantinga wrote:
Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?By the way, the SDL mailing list is gatewayed to a newsgroup:
news://news.lokigames.com/loki.open-source.sdl
Hmm… are there then web-based front-ends to newsgroups? That would replace a
forum quite nicely, no?
This, of course, coming from someone who’s never bothered to program a forum,
or run a newsgroup server. ^,^
Sean Etc.> See ya!
-Sam Lantinga, Lead Programmer, Loki Entertainment Software
Tue, 12 Dec 2000 Mattias Engdeg?rd wrote:
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
You can access the forum from any machine without sync problems. However, i
still prefer mailing lists, as local main managers are orders of magnitude
faster and easier to use than any kind of web interfaces, especially if you’re
on a slow link.
You can have a way to post to the list from a web page if you want.
That could be handy…
What about integrating the mailing list with a web interface? That way, you’d
have the advantages of both systems without sync problems between them… (I’ve
seen attempts on things like that, but nothing that actually works.)
Orthogonally, a better archive interface would be nice. The current
Yes. That, and a web post form (mail address + password authentication or
something) would basically be the alternative interface to the list, although,
it would require that the archive is updated in real time. (Don’t know how this
one works, but they usually update only once a day, once an hour or so. Not
very interactive if you’re using the web form to post…)
[…]
A good searchable and browsable archive at least gives us somewhere
to point people asking old questions to
Yes, and a handy tool for us, so it won’t be too much work to look it up
instead of bringing the same subjects up again.
//David
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Sean Middleditch wrote:
Mark Kimsal wrote:
Mattias Engdeg?rd wrote:
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
It would allow me to post from any email client, not only the one from which
I registered for the mailing list. It would allow someone to easily see
which topics have had recent replies. Plus, I’ve experienced faster
turn-around times with web-based messaging over email, no more getting mails
4 days late. I’m voting for the phorums if you couldn’t tell yet.Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?
e-groups does.
How about that ?
egroups.com is some kind of open forums… They have the functionality of a
mailing-list combined with the advantages of a forum (and there are some
indeed :). And they provide storage-space, member-lists, polls, calendars
and stuff… thought this might be usefull…
Maybe someone can look at it and we can use that way too
Greetings,
Sascha
Mark Kimsal wrote:
Sean Middleditch wrote:
Mark Kimsal wrote:
Mattias Engdeg?rd wrote:
And I wondered if guys around there would be interreseted in a FORUM on
the site, which avoid to come here.What would a web-based forum provide that a mailing list would not?
It would allow me to post from any email client, not only the one from which
I registered for the mailing list. It would allow someone to easily see
which topics have had recent replies. Plus, I’ve experienced faster
turn-around times with web-based messaging over email, no more getting mails
4 days late. I’m voting for the phorums if you couldn’t tell yet.Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?
e-groups does.
And they also attach annoying ads to everything.
-John [slightly annoyed moderator of a few egroups lists]–
Underfull \account (badness 10000) has occurred while \spend is active
John R. Hall - Student, Georgia Tech - Contractor, Loki Software
“John R. Hall” wrote:
Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?
e-groups does.And they also attach annoying ads to everything.
There are absolutely no open source forums that can do this, then?
Or perhaps simply making a more powerful mailing archive system, with jsut the small
addition of being able to send e-mail from the web-site, would suffice. Less
duplicated effort and space, I would assume, merging the archive with a very simple
forum-like interface (threading I assume would be the hardest part to pull off
right).
Sean Etc.>
-John [slightly annoyed moderator of a few egroups lists]
–
Underfull \account (badness 10000) has occurred while \spend is active
John R. Hall - Student, Georgia Tech - Contractor, Loki Software
Sascha G?nther wrote:
How about that ?
egroups.com is some kind of open forums… They have the functionality of a
mailing-list combined with the advantages of a forum (and there are some
indeed :). And they provide storage-space, member-lists, polls, calendars
and stuff… thought this might be usefull…Maybe someone can look at it and we can use that way too
Greetings,
Sascha
Problem is that if we open a count on egroups we’ll loose all threads
already written…
But it’s true that it would be a nice idea to create a simple HTML front
head to the news so that it would be easily to consult…
Tue, 12 Dec 2000 Mark Kimsal wrote:
Is there any forum software that can mix with a mailing list? So that all
e-mails go into the forum, and all forum posts are sent to the list?e-groups does.
It’s also terribly slow, and spams you with commercials in the .sigs, in my
experience. This may have changed and/or might me partially configurable,
though… (I’v never administered a group on e-groups myself; only been in one.)
//David
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| Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
| A Free/Open Source Plugin API for Professional Multimedia |
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