OpenGL Development

Eduardo_B_Fonseca · March 22, 2000, 7:52pm

Hello Guys,

I’m starting to develop an online 3d game for Mac, Linux, Windows,
FreeBSD and BeOS. But, I don’t have a good 3D card. Which one should I
get? Not only for the PC, but for the Mac too…

My mac has an ATI XClaim card (horrible)…

Thanks!

Eduardo.

Andreas_Umbach · March 22, 2000, 9:16pm

Eduardo B. Fonseca schrieb am 22 Mar 2000:

Hello Guys,

I’m starting to develop an online 3d game for Mac, Linux, Windows,
FreeBSD and BeOS. But, I don’t have a good 3D card. Which one should I
get? Not only for the PC, but for the Mac too…

I guess this is slightly OT, but I’d recommend a 3dfx card. Very good
linux support (since Voodoo1!), very good Mac support, BeOS: don’t know.

Don’t get anything from nVidia. They announce a lot, but their linux
support so far has been LOUSY!

Andreas–
Probably one of the smallest 3D-Games in the world: http://www.gltron.org
More than 60’000 Downloads of the latest version (0.53)

Wes_Poole · March 22, 2000, 11:03pm

The BeOs spec sheet claims compatiblitlity with VooDoos, I have’nt
actually tried it myself yet, but I have no reason to doubt it. (Note
to self, reinstall BeOs to check VooDoo 3 compatiblity).

Phoenix Kokido
members.xoom.com/kokido
@Wes_Poole

Andreas Umbach wrote:> Eduardo B. Fonseca schrieb am 22 Mar 2000:

Hello Guys,

I’m starting to develop an online 3d game for Mac, Linux, Windows,
FreeBSD and BeOS. But, I don’t have a good 3D card. Which one should I
get? Not only for the PC, but for the Mac too…

I guess this is slightly OT, but I’d recommend a 3dfx card. Very good
linux support (since Voodoo1!), very good Mac support, BeOS: don’t know.

Don’t get anything from nVidia. They announce a lot, but their linux
support so far has been LOUSY!

Andreas
–
Probably one of the smallest 3D-Games in the world: http://www.gltron.org
More than 60’000 Downloads of the latest version (0.53)

Pierre_Phaneuf · March 23, 2000, 12:08am

“Andreas Umbach” wrote:

I’m starting to develop an online 3d game for Mac, Linux, Windows,
FreeBSD and BeOS. But, I don’t have a good 3D card. Which one should I
get? Not only for the PC, but for the Mac too…

I guess this is slightly OT, but I’d recommend a 3dfx card. Very good
linux support (since Voodoo1!), very good Mac support, BeOS: don’t know.

Don’t get anything from nVidia. They announce a lot, but their linux
support so far has been LOUSY!

The nVidia are incredibly good cards, but their non-support on Linux is
going to make me nut! I hope they get their drivers out of the door as
soon as possible (and that they are as good as Windows drivers)… I’d
buy a TNT2 or a GeForce the day this is announced probably (and some
people told me that it works as good as my cuurent Voodoo2 setup).–
Pierre Phaneuf
Systems Exorcist

Eduardo_B_Fonseca · March 23, 2000, 12:53am

Hello Guys,

Thanks for all the info and sorry about the OT topic

Now, can anyone send me a skeleton of a simple OGL program that runs on
MacOS on top of SDL?

Thanks.

Eduardo.On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Pierre Phaneuf wrote:

“Andreas Umbach” wrote:

I’m starting to develop an online 3d game for Mac, Linux, Windows,
FreeBSD and BeOS. But, I don’t have a good 3D card. Which one should I
get? Not only for the PC, but for the Mac too…

I guess this is slightly OT, but I’d recommend a 3dfx card. Very good
linux support (since Voodoo1!), very good Mac support, BeOS: don’t know.

Don’t get anything from nVidia. They announce a lot, but their linux
support so far has been LOUSY!

The nVidia are incredibly good cards, but their non-support on Linux is
going to make me nut! I hope they get their drivers out of the door as
soon as possible (and that they are as good as Windows drivers)… I’d
buy a TNT2 or a GeForce the day this is announced probably (and some
people told me that it works as good as my cuurent Voodoo2 setup).

–
Pierre Phaneuf
Systems Exorcist

Nicholas_Vining · March 23, 2000, 6:26am

Hello Guys,

Thanks for all the info and sorry about the OT topic

Now, can anyone send me a skeleton of a simple OGL program that runs on
MacOS on top of SDL?

I don’t know where all this furor is coming from. The Mac’s GL
implementation for SDL seems to work fine for me – in fact, Quetzal and I
were able to port my Linux code over to the Macintosh using SDL and GL in
about fifteen minutes – the major things that were had to do was rewiring
all the file systems.

If you still really want a simple OpenGL shell, I will send you one that I
know works.

Nicholas

Nicholas Vining “While you’re out there struggling
vining at pacificcoast.net with your computer, I’m naked,
icq: 20872003 clueless, and feeling good!”
- Ratbert

----- Original Message -----
From: ebf@cwb.fnn.net (Eduardo B. Fonseca)
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:08 PM
Subject: [SDL] Mac OpenGL on SDL (was Re: OpenGL Development)

Alain_Toussaint · March 23, 2000, 8:25am

(Note
to self, reinstall BeOs to check VooDoo 3 compatiblity).

note to ya,wait 8 day,BeOS 5 will be available for download (personnal
use only) at http://free.be.com/.

Alain “sure i’ll download it but i wonder if it include ip Masq support
??” Toussaint

Eduardo_B_Fonseca · March 23, 2000, 11:59am

Nicholas,

I don’t know where all this furor is coming from. The Mac’s GL
implementation for SDL seems to work fine for me – in fact, Quetzal and I
were able to port my Linux code over to the Macintosh using SDL and GL in
about fifteen minutes – the major things that were had to do was rewiring
all the file systems.

If you still really want a simple OpenGL shell, I will send you one that I
know works.

Sorry for the dumb question Nicholas, but I’m not familiar with OpenGL
yet. Sam’s idea worked, the testgl app runs nicely on MacSDL. I will start
to study more of OGL now…

Thanks for everything,

Eduardo.

Wes_Poole · March 23, 2000, 12:59pm

Oooh, were down to a five day wait now? Yay! I’m gonna have to
hijack the ISDN at the office for an hour now. I wonder if my sound
card is supported yet…

Phoenix Kokido
members.xoom.com/kokido
@Wes_Poole

Alain Toussaint wrote:> > (Note

to self, reinstall BeOs to check VooDoo 3 compatiblity).

note to ya,wait 8 day,BeOS 5 will be available for download (personnal
use only) at http://free.be.com/.

Alain “sure i’ll download it but i wonder if it include ip Masq support
??” Toussaint

Nicholas_Vining · March 23, 2000, 8:38pm

Nicholas,

I don’t know where all this furor is coming from. The Mac’s GL
implementation for SDL seems to work fine for me – in fact, Quetzal and
I

were able to port my Linux code over to the Macintosh using SDL and GL in
about fifteen minutes – the major things that were had to do was
rewiring

all the file systems.

If you still really want a simple OpenGL shell, I will send you one that
I

know works.

Sorry for the dumb question Nicholas, but I’m not familiar with OpenGL
yet. Sam’s idea worked, the testgl app runs nicely on MacSDL. I will start
to study more of OGL now…

Don’t sweat it. OpenGL is REALLY easy to learn, I worked out the basics in
about two hours (although having written 3D engines before does help). I
would suggest that you start with the NeHe tutorials, up at
http://www.gamedev.net/hosted/nehe although Sam did a few SDL ports, but I
don’ t know where they’ve gone.

Thanks for everything,

No prob. Give me a holler if you have any problems.

Eduardo.

Cheers,

Nicholas

Nicholas Vining “While you’re out there struggling
vining at pacificcoast.net with your computer, I’m naked,
icq: 20872003 clueless, and feeling good!”
- Ratbert

----- Original Message -----
From: ebf@cwb.fnn.net (Eduardo B. Fonseca)
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [SDL] Mac OpenGL on SDL (was Re: OpenGL Development)

Chiachang_Tsai · March 24, 2000, 1:02am

?H???: Nicholas Vining
???:
???e???: 2000?~3??24?? AM 04:38
?D??: Re: [SDL] Mac OpenGL on SDL (was Re: OpenGL Development)

Nicholas,

I don’t know where all this furor is coming from. The Mac’s GL
implementation for SDL seems to work fine for me – in fact, Quetzal
and
I

were able to port my Linux code over to the Macintosh using SDL and GL
in

about fifteen minutes – the major things that were had to do was
rewiring

all the file systems.

If you still really want a simple OpenGL shell, I will send you one
that
I

know works.

Sorry for the dumb question Nicholas, but I’m not familiar with OpenGL
yet. Sam’s idea worked, the testgl app runs nicely on MacSDL. I will
start

to study more of OGL now…

Don’t sweat it. OpenGL is REALLY easy to learn, I worked out the basics in
about two hours (although having written 3D engines before does help). I
would suggest that you start with the NeHe tutorials, up at
http://www.gamedev.net/hosted/nehe although Sam did a few SDL ports, but I
don’ t know where they’ve gone.
Here http://nehe.gamedev.net/
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: Eduardo B. Fonseca
To: sdl at lokigames.com
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [SDL] Mac OpenGL on SDL (was Re: OpenGL Development)