Hi,
I want to ask if there’s any possibility to see libSDL for OS/2 in near
future?
regards, Pavel Kanzelsberger
Hi,
I want to ask if there’s any possibility to see libSDL for OS/2 in near
future?
OS/2 isn’t a “living” os these days… As far as I know the last few
versions were E-Com Station and an IBM internal only version…
My colleague is a real OS/2 nut, but even he abandoned it 2/3 years ago
due to it not supporting his hardware…
BTW. Can’t wait for Pixel32 on Linux…
I was waiting for a new BeOS version, but as BeOS is dead now, linux is
looking very tasty…
Any plans for a beta…Or are you holding develpment til you port PTK to
SDL ??
If you could just replicate Photoshop’s Lighting Effects (one of the most
useful functions ever created), then I’d never need to touch Adobe’s
product again…
Yours,
Andy GordonOn Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Kanzelsberger Pavel wrote:
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Tel: +44 23 8023 2345 andy at querix.co.uk
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As a former OS/2 user, I feel I must comment:
hahaha, yeahright.
Okay, now for a real answer:
If you patch it, he will commit.
Sorry, Field of Dreams flashback. Seriously, even many of the most
diehard OS/2 users have moved on by now. Chances of ever seeing anything
new and exciting for OS/2 are so small that they are insignificant. I
would be surprised if you guys even have Mozilla working sanely at the
moment. IBM has been pooring the best of OS/2 and even some of AIX into
Linux in recent years. Hell, the only thing they’re not porting to Linux
is IM, and I suspect that’s only because they know there’s not much chance
of Linux supporting the EAs to make it work right. Too bad too, PM apps
were ugly as sin, but the PM object model was really cool.
You’re probably going to have to port it yourself. But if you actually
make it work, I’m certain Sam will add your work to CVS.On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:45:35AM +0100, Kanzelsberger Pavel wrote:
I want to ask if there’s any possibility to see libSDL for OS/2 in near
future?
–
Joseph Carter Don’t feed the sigs
- Mercury calmly removes XT-Ream’s arm…
- Mercury then proceeds to beat XT-Ream with XT-Ream’s arm.
wow, all this quake hacking is making Mercury violent here - mao is glad the quake forge project is in good hands
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Hi,
Nice to see Pixel32 fan on this mailing list ;))))
I’m still working on Pixel32 for BeOS btw…
Anyway Linux version is already working, the only thing I need to finish is
threading and then I will release first beta for Linux and FreeBSD…
I’m not porting PTK to SDL … PTK was just replaced by SDL. My UI is not
part of PTK, it’s platform independent. Linux version worked after 30
minutes of porting 
That’s a pitty with OS/2, I had many requests for OS/2 version… I wonder
if it’s possible to execute Windows applications under OS/2 (I heard
something like that)
Regards, Pavel Kanzelsberger> ----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Gordon [mailto:andy@querix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'sdl at libsdl.org’
Subject: Re: [SDL] OS/2On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Kanzelsberger Pavel wrote:
Hi,
I want to ask if there’s any possibility to see libSDL for OS/2 in
near future?OS/2 isn’t a “living” os these days… As far as I know the last few
versions were E-Com Station and an IBM internal only version…My colleague is a real OS/2 nut, but even he abandoned it 2/3 years ago due
to it not supporting his hardware…BTW. Can’t wait for Pixel32 on Linux…
I was waiting for a new BeOS version, but as BeOS is dead now, linux is
looking very tasty… Any plans for a beta…Or are you holding develpment
til you port PTK to SDL ??If you could just replicate Photoshop’s Lighting Effects (one of the most
useful functions ever created), then I’d never need to touch Adobe’s product
again…Yours,
Andy Gordon
QueriX UK
36A London Road http://www.querix.co.uk
Southampton
Tel: +44 23 8023 2345 andy at querix.co.uk
Fax: +44 23 8039 9685
SDL mailing list
SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl
OK, I understand … I’ll give it a try
Regards, Pavel Kanzelsberger> ----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Carter [mailto:knghtbrd@bluecherry.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:46 PM
To: sdl at libsdl.org
Subject: Re: [SDL] OS/2On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:45:35AM +0100, Kanzelsberger Pavel wrote:
I want to ask if there’s any possibility to see libSDL for OS/2 in
near future?As a former OS/2 user, I feel I must comment:
hahaha, yeahright.
Okay, now for a real answer:
If you patch it, he will commit.
Sorry, Field of Dreams flashback. Seriously, even many of the most diehard
OS/2 users have moved on by now. Chances of ever seeing anything new and
exciting for OS/2 are so small that they are insignificant. I would be
surprised if you guys even have Mozilla working sanely at the moment. IBM
has been pooring the best of OS/2 and even some of AIX into Linux in recent
years. Hell, the only thing they’re not porting to Linux is IM, and I
suspect that’s only because they know there’s not much chance of Linux
supporting the EAs to make it work right. Too bad too, PM apps were ugly as
sin, but the PM object model was really cool.You’re probably going to have to port it yourself. But if you actually make
it work, I’m certain Sam will add your work to CVS.–
Joseph Carter Don’t feed the sigs
- Mercury calmly removes XT-Ream’s arm…
- Mercury then proceeds to beat XT-Ream with XT-Ream’s arm. wow,
all this quake hacking is making Mercury violent here- mao is glad the quake forge project is in good hands
That’s a pitty with OS/2, I had many requests for OS/2 version… I wonder
if it’s possible to execute Windows applications under OS/2 (I heard
something like that)
I always thought SDL should have this, for completeness if nothing else,
but it’s been years since I’ve been able to get OS/2 to boot let alone
run with accelerated drivers. There’s a good three or so week period where
vmWare had a beta that ran OS/2, but they yanked the support too.
If someone wants to donate me some older hardware, I’ll write an OS/2
backend, though.
–ryan.
May I ask if there’s available real 32bit version of OS/2 or it is 16bit? Or
it’s like Windows95 (a mix)?
Regards, Pavel Kanzelsberger> ----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan C. Gordon [mailto:icculus@icculus.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:52 PM
To: sdl at libsdl.org
Subject: RE: [SDL] OS/2That’s a pitty with OS/2, I had many requests for OS/2 version… I
wonder if it’s possible to execute Windows applications under OS/2 (I
heard something like that)I always thought SDL should have this, for completeness if nothing else, but
it’s been years since I’ve been able to get OS/2 to boot let alone run
with accelerated drivers. There’s a good three or so week period where
vmWare had a beta that ran OS/2, but they yanked the support too.If someone wants to donate me some older hardware, I’ll write an OS/2
backend, though.–ryan.
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SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl
May I ask if there’s available real 32bit version of OS/2 or it is 16bit? Or
it’s like Windows95 (a mix)?
It’s a mix. You get the memory protection, etc of a 32-bit operating
system, but there are 16-bit OS/2 apps (not to mention DOS and win16
support). Some of the system DLLs are 16-bit, device drivers are, with a
few exceptions, 16-bit, too.
I’ve heard that Warp Server removes all 16-bit code, but I can’t verify that.
Userspace applications themselves can be fully 32-bit.
–ryan.
OK seems to be usable as Windows95 alternative :)> ----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan C. Gordon [mailto:icculus@icculus.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:32 AM
To: sdl at libsdl.org
Subject: RE: [SDL] OS/2May I ask if there’s available real 32bit version of OS/2 or it is
16bit? Or it’s like Windows95 (a mix)?It’s a mix. You get the memory protection, etc of a 32-bit operating system,
but there are 16-bit OS/2 apps (not to mention DOS and win16 support). Some
of the system DLLs are 16-bit, device drivers are, with a few exceptions,
16-bit, too.I’ve heard that Warp Server removes all 16-bit code, but I can’t verify
that.Userspace applications themselves can be fully 32-bit.
–ryan.
SDL mailing list
SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl
That’s a pitty with OS/2, I had many requests for OS/2 version… I wonder
if it’s possible to execute Windows applications under OS/2 (I heard
something like that)
Yeah you can run Windows 16 bit stuff on it natively. It has the Windows 3.1
API built in. Too bad it’s dead, it was a good O/S. First time Microsoft got
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Ryan C. Gordon writes:
That’s a pitty with OS/2, I had many requests for OS/2 version… I wonder
if it’s possible to execute Windows applications under OS/2 (I heard
something like that)I always thought SDL should have this, for completeness if nothing else,
but it’s been years since I’ve been able to get OS/2 to boot let alone
run with accelerated drivers. There’s a good three or so week period where
vmWare had a beta that ran OS/2, but they yanked the support too.If someone wants to donate me some older hardware, I’ll write an OS/2
backend, though.
Uh-huh. I’ve heard that song before. Why don’t you finish the
backends you’ve already committed yourself to writing first.–
jv