Why are all SDL_* libs versions released at the same time? For me it makes no
sense to wait 7 months for a bugfix release of SDL_ttf (the blended font
rendering bug). Can anyone explain?
Not that I don’t honor all your good work there out, SDL programmers, but
I think “release early, release often” is meant at least for bugfix releases.
So long
Krenni–
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As i see, this is an open source project. You have the source, you can fix
it. And therefore you can contribute your work.
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From: krennwallner@aon.at (Thomas Krennwallner)
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:19 PM
Subject: [SDL] Release time of SDL_* libs
Hi!
Why are all SDL_* libs versions released at the same time? For me it makes
no
sense to wait 7 months for a bugfix release of SDL_ttf (the blended font
rendering bug). Can anyone explain?
Not that I don’t honor all your good work there out, SDL programmers, but
I think “release early, release often” is meant at least for bugfix
releases.
So long
Krenni
–
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Why are all SDL_* libs versions released at the same time?
Mostly because I’m maintaining them, and it takes about 3 weeks of work
to tweak, build, test, rinse and repeat on each platform for each release.
If I do the releases in parallel, it only takes about 4 weeks to do them
all instead of 3 months.
For me it makes no
sense to wait 7 months for a bugfix release of SDL_ttf (the blended font
rendering bug). Can anyone explain?
Yes, that was a bit ridiculous, but I couldn’t release SDL_ttf until I had
working builds on all the platforms, and that required working out the kinks
in the MacOS X build system, and waiting for a new release of SDL_ttf that
fixed a few issues with font quality and cross-platform builds.
Anyone who needs up to date bugfixes are always welcome to use CVS snapshots,
which are always up to date and lately have been fairly stable. Not an ideal
solution, but unless I get a team of developers devoted to updating each
library on each platform, that’s the best I can do in my spare time.
Also, if there’s something specific you need, let me know and I’ll try
to accomodate you. And if I can’t, I’ll try to let you know why.
See ya,
-Sam Lantinga, Software Engineer, Blizzard Entertainment
Not that I don’t honor all your good work there out, SDL programmers, but
I think “release early, release often” is meant at least for bugfix releases.
Ryan, though this may sound trollish, I think you’re an idiot. End users that need a bug fixed arnt gonna use cvs. They are often lack the knowledge or ability to even compile code. Most heavly worked on code should have releases around every 6 months, with additional releases for stuff that fits under the brown bag catigory. And also, cvs has a chance of other code being borked, so even though the bug is fixed, another one could arise.On 19-Dec-2001, Ryan C. Gordon wrote:
Not that I don’t honor all your good work there out, SDL programmers, but
I think “release early, release often” is meant at least for bugfix releases.
On Wed Dec 19, 2001 at 09:26:42AM -0800, the boisterous
Sam Lantinga
wrote to me:
Why are all SDL_* libs versions released at the same time?
Mostly because I’m maintaining them, and it takes about 3 weeks of work
to tweak, build, test, rinse and repeat on each platform for each release.
If I do the releases in parallel, it only takes about 4 weeks to do them
all instead of 3 months.
That’s a explaination.
Anyone who needs up to date bugfixes are always welcome to use CVS snapshots,
which are always up to date and lately have been fairly stable. Not an ideal
solution, but unless I get a team of developers devoted to updating each
library on each platform, that’s the best I can do in my spare time.
I think this is the main point. There should be trusted build guys out there
giving you a helping hand compiling SDL on the xx supported platforms. One
human cannot do all the work.
Also, if there’s something specific you need, let me know and I’ll try
to accomodate you. And if I can’t, I’ll try to let you know why.
OK, will do this in future.
So long
Krenni–
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At 6:40 Uhr +0100 20.12.2001, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
[…]
I think this is the main point. There should be trusted build guys out there
giving you a helping hand compiling SDL on the xx supported platforms. One
human cannot do all the work.
Do you volunteer?
What I want to say is: Saying “there should be XYZ” won’t make it
happen by automatic. It’s not as simple as saying it, you have to
actually find people doing it.
On Thu Dec 20, 2001 at 09:58:46AM +0100, the boisterous
Max Horn
wrote to me:
At 6:40 Uhr +0100 20.12.2001, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
[…]
I think this is the main point. There should be trusted build guys out there
giving you a helping hand compiling SDL on the xx supported platforms. One
human cannot do all the work.
Do you volunteer?
What I want to say is: Saying “there should be XYZ” won’t make it
happen by automatic. It’s not as simple as saying it, you have to
actually find people doing it.
OK, I could compile it for Irix 6.2, if I get time to install gcc on this box.
so long
Krenni–
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