John said:
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leave poor old Sam, who is quite a wonderful and helpful man sad.
For those who care, Sam came up to Davis, CA to a local LUG that I’m part
of and gave a very good speech and demo of SDL and Civ:CTP. It was one
of our best meetings so far. I asked him if we could come up, like, less
than a week ago. Thanks Sam!
> But seriously, I think a more important purpose of a mailing list is to establish a
> group of friends with a common interest.
That’s a good point. Other than recognizing a few people’s names now and
then when a question comes up, this list has been a pretty sterile experience
so far. Until this evening.
Of course, on the other hand, filling up people’s e-mail boxes with
things they may consider irrelevant may discourage them from staying signed
up, so we’d lose valuable resources (people).*
And don’t quote that and say “well why are you writing this, then?” because
while this response doesn’t have to do with SDL as a library, it DOES have
to do with SDL the mailing list, and, while perhaps irrelevant to some,
SDL the userbase/community. So there, nyeah. :^P ;^)
I was only a matter of time…
If we can’t talk about anything trivial, then we’re sure as hell not
going to talk about anything important. Human nature. I for one like
getting to know people on the list…
I was only a matter of time…
If we can’t talk about anything trivial, then we’re sure as hell not
going to talk about anything important. Human nature. I for one like
getting to know people on the list…
This is my point. This off-topic conversation led to the serious
discussion of creating a web-browser with SDL, there was even talk of
Javascript and dare I say…Java support. This would take a lot of work,
but There are only two major competitors, assuming the SDL Web Browser
would be free. Those being Netscape and MS. (If you ask me MS IE sucks.
It’s acts just like KFM with java support. Nothing against KFM but it is
a free file browser, not a commercial web browser.)
Conversations, that are quick and to the point are very rarely
productive. Take this from a guy who has re-invented flight (so to
speak) over and over again, real innovation comes when you least expect
it. Pure focus is good in a fight, or brain surgery, but true innovation
comes from just kinda lettin’ it all hang out.>
For those who care, Sam came up to Davis, CA to a local LUG that I’m part
of and gave a very good speech and demo of SDL and Civ:CTP. It was one
of our best meetings so far. I asked him if we could come up, like, less
than a week ago. Thanks Sam!
My pleasure!
-Sam Lantinga (slouken at devolution.com)
Lead Programmer, Loki Entertainment Software–
“Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature”
– Rich Kulawiec
This is my point. This off-topic conversation led to the serious
discussion of creating a web-browser with SDL,
Haha, a web browser in SDL? I’ll believe it when I see it.
there was even talk of
Javascript and dare I say…Java support. This would take a lot of work,
but There are only two major competitors, assuming the SDL Web Browser
would be free. Those being Netscape and MS. (If you ask me MS IE sucks.
It’s acts just like KFM with java support. Nothing against KFM but it is
a free file browser, not a commercial web browser.)
whoah there man, IE 5.0 is great, aside from being the worlds fastest fully
functional web browser. Although I will admit KFM is nothing to smile at
(although quite cool), still, IE is a great web browser.
This is my point. This off-topic conversation led to the serious
discussion of creating a web-browser with SDL,
Haha, a web browser in SDL? I’ll believe it when I see it.
Well, SDL has proven it is capable of TrueType font rendering. JPEG and GIF
shouldn’t be a problem, I mean SDL IS a graphics library. I reckon a graphical
front end to sendmail wouldn’t be impossible, include an either from scratch
or front-end to an FTP program and you’ve got quite a tool. Maybe not the next
Netscape, but that is not what we are going for here is it.
there was even talk of
Javascript and dare I say…Java support. This would take a lot of work,
but There are only two major competitors, assuming the SDL Web Browser
would be free. Those being Netscape and MS. (If you ask me MS IE sucks.
It’s acts just like KFM with java support. Nothing against KFM but it is
a free file browser, not a commercial web browser.)
whoah there man, IE 5.0 is great, aside from being the worlds fastest fully
functional web browser. Although I will admit KFM is nothing to smile at
(although quite cool), still, IE is a great web browser.
Didn’t mean to offend. What I don’t like about IE is the fact that, like KFM
the text will load before the size of the images is computed, so you will be
reading and then a big picture loads and moves your text. Also, like all MS
products none of it is in color, which is why I love netscape. I hate these
two-color graphics.
At least that is the way my version, 4.0 is. I buddy of mine regrets 5.0 and
wishes he’d never downloaded it, but I don’t use windows anymore so it doesn’t
matter to me anyhow.>
Regardless of whether anyone does an HTML renderer or not in SDL, I
will be working on a hypertext engine for my RPG, it will be based on
HTML, but it will have some more game friendly tags (like alpha
values, etc). I’ll make an announcement when it displays something.
Thanks Sam!