My name is Guilherme C. Hazan and i’m the lead developer of SuperWaba, an
open-source Virtual Machine for PDAs.
The current released version works fine on Palm OS 2.0 and beyond, and also
on Windows CE 2.11 and beyond.
SuperWaba 5.0 will heavily rely on SDL. Wel already have it about 80% ported
to SDL, and we feel like we’re doing a major step ahead.
We would like to have a closer partnership with the SDL owner. We are going
to develop a PALM OS driver for SDL in 60 days. But before we do this, we
want to talk with the SDL owner.
Sorry for posting this here, but no one ever answers e-mails from this
address: slouken at libsdl.org
Is this guy dead? If yes, does anyone here considers itself the leader of
the project?
If possible, leader, please contact me privately.
Best Regards
Guilherme Campos Hazan (guich)
SuperWaba Lead Developer
http://www.superwaba.com
Sam Latinga isnt dead, he just has a newborn baby (:
theres other developers of sdl besides him though so im sure one of em will
chime in.> ----- Original Message -----
From: guich@superwaba.com.br (Guilherme Campos Hazan)
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:12 AM
Subject: [SDL] Searching for the SDL author
Hi all,
My name is Guilherme C. Hazan and i’m the lead developer of SuperWaba, an
open-source Virtual Machine for PDAs.
The current released version works fine on Palm OS 2.0 and beyond, and
also
on Windows CE 2.11 and beyond.
SuperWaba 5.0 will heavily rely on SDL. Wel already have it about 80%
ported
to SDL, and we feel like we’re doing a major step ahead.
We would like to have a closer partnership with the SDL owner. We are
going
to develop a PALM OS driver for SDL in 60 days. But before we do this, we
want to talk with the SDL owner.
Sorry for posting this here, but no one ever answers e-mails from this
address: slouken at libsdl.org
Is this guy dead? If yes, does anyone here considers itself the leader of
the project?
If possible, leader, please contact me privately.
Best Regards
Guilherme Campos Hazan (guich)
SuperWaba Lead Developer
http://www.superwaba.com
We would like to have a closer partnership with the SDL owner. We are going
to develop a PALM OS driver for SDL in 60 days. But before we do this, we
want to talk with the SDL owner.
SDL is an Open Source project, meaning that no one has full ownership of
this project. Although contributors retain Copyrights to certain
sections off the code, the code is there for you to do as you see fit.
Sorry for posting this here, but no one ever answers e-mails from this
address: slouken at libsdl.org
Is this guy dead? If yes, does anyone here considers itself the leader of
the project?
Sam Latinga, SDL’s original author, has a very demanding job at Blizzard
and recently fathered a baby. Meaning that he will most likely won’t
spend his free reading and replying to all his E-Mail.
SDL is OSS meaning you can do with it as you wish as long as you make
any changes available to the original author, and give credit where
credit is due. If you’re only going to link to SDL, depending how it’s
done, there is no real need for you to give credit to the SDL authors
(though it would be a nice thing to do). Read the LGPL for more info, http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html.
If you have any further questions try reading through the mailing lists
archives, then feel free to ask away.
Best regards,On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 11:12, Guilherme C. Hazan wrote:
As long as you abide by the license. (But yeah, you covered that below…
but just in case someone was skimming)
-bill!On Sat, Jul 17, 2004 at 01:47:44PM -0700, Juan D. Espinoza wrote:
SDL is an Open Source project, meaning that no one has full ownership of
this project. Although contributors retain Copyrights to certain
sections off the code, the code is there for you to do as you see fit.
SDL is OSS meaning you can do with it as you wish as long as you make
any changes available to the original author, and give credit where
credit is due.
aehaem. where did you get this idea from? the (L)GPL does not force any
changes to be sent upstream to anybody. it forces you to ship
your (changed) sources with the binary (or give a written note where
and how to get the source). nothing more.
SDL is an Open Source project, meaning that no one has full ownership of
this project. Although contributors retain Copyrights to certain
sections off the code, the code is there for you to do as you see fit.
I understand this Juan, but there must be “someone” for supervising the commits
to the SDL CVS.
Examples:
Guilherme writes a Palm OS driver (people have asked for such driver.) How can
he make it available to the SDL community? Who decides that such a driver is
worth to be added to the regular SDL distribution?
I recently had a problem due to the difference between Windoze and Linux audio
drivers (one waits for the wave to end, the other doesn’t.) The fix requires
an API change (flushAudio.) The code sits in my computer. What can I do, now?
SDL is OSS meaning you can do with it as you wish as long as you make
any changes available to the original author
HOW? He is not answering… (though he has good reasons for doing so, congrats
Sam!)
Clemens, I said that you have to make your source available to the
author (did you read what you quoted) also provided a link to the LGPL.
But of course you can always keep your source if the release is in
house, and never released to the public. As for submitting patches, you
can always post your patch here, Sam and other members of the SDL dev.
team monitor this mailing list.
Sam, isn’t dead just have some patience he will get back to us when he
has the time.
My name is Guilherme C. Hazan and i’m the lead developer of SuperWaba, an
open-source Virtual Machine for PDAs.
The current released version works fine on Palm OS 2.0 and beyond, and also
on Windows CE 2.11 and beyond.
SuperWaba 5.0 will heavily rely on SDL. Wel already have it about 80% ported
to SDL, and we feel like we’re doing a major step ahead.
We would like to have a closer partnership with the SDL owner. We are going
to develop a PALM OS driver for SDL in 60 days. But before we do this, we
want to talk with the SDL owner.
Hi Guilherme, thanks for your e-mail. Your messages are in my inbox, and
I’ll be replying to them soon.
See ya!
-Sam Lantinga, Software Engineer, Blizzard Entertainment
In the case of SDL, just post the diffs to the mailing list. This
really isn’t that hard. ;)On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:06:33 -0700, Juan D. Espinoza wrote:
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 06:56, Juan D. Espinoza wrote:
Clemens, I said that you have to make your source available to the
Whoops sorry missread your post. Anyhow the poster should read the LGPL
for himself, if he plans to make any changes to the SDL library.
–
Patrick “Diablo-D3” McFarland || @Patrick_McFarland
"Computer games don’t affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we’d
all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to
repetitive electronic music." – Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989
Considering that you are asking a very busy man to do you a favor, you
really don’t have the right to publicly complain when it takes him a
while to get around to it. For that matter you have no right to complain
if he never gets around to it.
Lighten up!
Bob PendletonOn Mon, 2004-07-26 at 17:57, Guilherme Campos Hazan wrote:
I think that the willing of Guich for porting SDL to PalmOS justifies it.
Do you imagine the amount of work that it represents? Graphics? Events?
Given the wierdness of PalmOS, a close relationship with God is required.
And, also, the PalmOS community is still huge…> -----Original Message-----
From: sdl-bounces+pgr=jaxo.com at libsdl.org
[mailto:sdl-bounces+pgr=jaxo.com at libsdl.org]On Behalf Of James Arthur
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:11 AM
To: A list for developers using the SDL library. (includes SDL-announce)
Subject: Re: [SDL] Re: Searching for the SDL author
I looked over this thread one more time before responding.
Guilherme, I don’t think it’s likely that you’re going to be able to
acquire this “close partnership” with Sam. He has more pressing
obligations. And this is an open source project, he isn’t the only
person you should consider developing a partnership with.
It seems that you may be on some sort of deadline, so I recommend you
try to acquire the cooperation of someone else here.
(But yeah, you covered that below…