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Does anyone have plans for adding divx support to SDL SMPEG? Or is anyone
currently working on a linux divx player period?
What people seem to completely miss is that all this ‘DivX:-)’ "support"
is nothing more than shims around the existing Microsoft codecs. Why this
is so amazing is beyond me. There is nothing interesting here for anyone
in the open-source community until someone writes and releases a full
codec in source form. This isn’t going to happen for a while longer.
MPEG-4 itself is hard enough, figuring out whatever M$ did to mutilate it
will be even harder. Where this whole DivX thing may help is in dealing
with the ASF file format, but I don’t see any code coming out of anyone
working on this stuff, only binaries.
In other words: don’t hold your breath. We don’t want to have to call an
ambulance…
Erik Walthinsen <@Erik_Walthinsen> - Staff Programmer @ OGI
Quasar project - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/DISC/projects/quasar/
Video4Linux Two drivers and stuff - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~omega/v4l2/On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Uriah Liggett wrote:
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Take a look at:
http://www-eleves.enst-bretagne.fr/~chavarri/xmps/
It’s an open source MPEG player that is adding experimental support for
windows codecs
with divx being specifically mentioned. gtv plays mpegs little better,
but
the interface on this is nicer.
This has some neat features, like different display drivers: openGL, raw
X11, and SDL.
it also supports skins and it looks like it’s going to support play
lists (like xmms)
If you try it switch to the SDL driver, it works much better than the
opengl or X11 ones.
-fjr
Erik Walthinsen wrote:>
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Uriah Liggett wrote:
Does anyone have plans for adding divx support to SDL SMPEG? Or is anyone
currently working on a linux divx player period?What people seem to completely miss is that all this ‘DivX:-)’ "support"
is nothing more than shims around the existing Microsoft codecs. Why this
is so amazing is beyond me. There is nothing interesting here for anyone
in the open-source community until someone writes and releases a full
codec in source form. This isn’t going to happen for a while longer.
MPEG-4 itself is hard enough, figuring out whatever M$ did to mutilate it
will be even harder. Where this whole DivX thing may help is in dealing
with the ASF file format, but I don’t see any code coming out of anyone
working on this stuff, only binaries.In other words: don’t hold your breath. We don’t want to have to call an
ambulance…
–
Frank J. Ramsay
@Frank_Ramsay
It’s an open source MPEG player that is adding experimental support for
windows codecs with divx being specifically mentioned.
Right. This is no different. It still uses the black box of a DLL from
windoze. While this is code I intend to look into putting into another
project of mine (gstreamer.sourceforge.net), that doesn’t allow for any
modifications, enhancements, or optimizations to the codec itself. And
technically it requires that you have a license for Windoze 9x, since you
have to install the DLL on a machine in order to get it legally.
I’ll probably spend a non-trivial amount of time reading through the
MPEG-4 spec on the plane Monday, which hopefully will put me closer to
actually writing some MPEG-4 code.
Erik Walthinsen <@Erik_Walthinsen> - Staff Programmer @ OGI
Quasar project - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/DISC/projects/quasar/
Video4Linux Two drivers and stuff - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~omega/v4l2/On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Frank Ramsay wrote:
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Erik Walthinsen wrote:
I’ll probably spend a non-trivial amount of time reading through the
MPEG-4 spec on the plane Monday, which hopefully will put me closer to
actually writing some MPEG-4 code.
I think will should gather our strength if we want ot get a real MPEG4
codec. I don’t know if there is already a project for an MPEG-4 open
source efficient codec but if not we should create one and gather
people…–
Damien Chavarria.
Erik Walthinsen wrote:
Does anyone have plans for adding divx support to SDL SMPEG? Or is anyone
currently working on a linux divx player period?What people seem to completely miss is that all this ‘DivX:-)’ "support"
is nothing more than shims around the existing Microsoft codecs. Why this
is so amazing is beyond me. There is nothing interesting here for anyone
in the open-source community until someone writes and releases a full
codec in source form. This isn’t going to happen for a while longer.
MPEG-4 itself is hard enough, figuring out whatever M$ did to mutilate it
will be even harder. Where this whole DivX thing may help is in dealing
with the ASF file format, but I don’t see any code coming out of anyone
working on this stuff, only binaries.
This is all such a shame… Maybe people should direct their efforts to helping
Xiphophorus, who are working on open multimedia codecs. I almost feel like
going farther with any MPEGx porting stuff - even MP3 - will only help the
interests of the ‘big-bad-content-controllers’ in the end. Xiph’s audio format
– Ogg Vorbis – is already working and supposedly as good as MP3 or VQF, with
plugins for XMMS and Winamp. I will stop using MP3 the day their beta comes
out, even if it does not sound as good, because I am just tired of hearing about
all of this proprietary nonsense. Who needs it – P (
http://www.xiph.org/about.html )> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Uriah Liggett wrote:
In other words: don’t hold your breath. We don’t want to have to call an
ambulance…Erik Walthinsen <omega at cse.ogi.edu> - Staff Programmer @ OGI Quasar project - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/DISC/projects/quasar/Video4Linux Two drivers and stuff - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~omega/v4l2/
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This is all such a shame… Maybe people should direct their efforts to
helping Xiphophorus, who are working on open multimedia codecs. I
almost feel like going farther with any MPEGx porting stuff - even MP3 -
will only help the interests of the ‘big-bad-content-controllers’ in the
end. Xiph’s audio format – Ogg Vorbis – is already working and
supposedly as good as MP3 or VQF, with plugins for XMMS and Winamp. I
will stop using MP3 the day their beta comes out, even if it does not
sound as good, because I am just tired of hearing about all of this
proprietary nonsense. Who needs it
I agree wholeheartedly. I would like nothing better than to see the
development of an unencumbered video codec proceed. I asked Monty about
what they’d done so far, he said that basically the video efforts were
stalled due to burnout of various people. I get the impression that there
was one person at a time hammering away at various ideas, and each got
tired of working on it in turn.
What’s needed, as you and others have said, is to organize poeple with
interest and experience in video processing and compression, and start
developing ideas. I am ready to commit myself to such a project, just as
soon as I get back from vacation 
Erik Walthinsen <@Erik_Walthinsen> - Staff Programmer @ OGI
Quasar project - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/DISC/projects/quasar/
Video4Linux Two drivers and stuff - http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~omega/v4l2/On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Peter Nicolai wrote:
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Damien Chavarria wrote:
Erik Walthinsen wrote:
I’ll probably spend a non-trivial amount of time reading through the
MPEG-4 spec on the plane Monday, which hopefully will put me closer to
actually writing some MPEG-4 code.I think will should gather our strength if we want ot get a real MPEG4
codec. I don’t know if there is already a project for an MPEG-4 open
source efficient codec but if not we should create one and gather
people…–
Damien Chavarria.
Maybe you should contact linux at divx.st. There is also
a homepage http://linux.divx.st/ (nothing but some links there by now).
Some people are already working on MPEG4 for PC/Mac/Linux (in that
order).
So if you feel like doing something - tell them.
Marcel Ritter
Maybe you should contact linux at divx.st. There is also
a homepage http://linux.divx.st/ (nothing but some links there by now).
I and (as far as I know) several others have contacted them, but no
resonse. As someone else mentioned earlier in this thread, the important
thing to know about DivX;-) is that it is just a hack-on to Microsofts
Codecs. That means there is no source to port. It also means that the
codec is most likely threading on several copyright laws, etc…
What we need is a free, open codec. I’m even sceptical if that could be
built upon mpeg-4 (or 7), since that would most likely result in the MPEG
Group sitting on all the major patents.
FrankRL