-TRIVIAL- bug in the mailing list

there’s a minor bug in the mailing list… I don’t receive messages exactly
cronologically. This way, sometimes I receive the answer to a question BEFORE the
question itself, and that makes the reading quite difficult.

Maybe you may want to fix it.

CRV?ADER/KY

there’s a minor bug in the mailing list… I don’t receive messages exactly
cronologically. This way, sometimes I receive the answer to a question
BEFORE the question itself, and that makes the reading quite difficult.

Maybe you may want to fix it.

CRV?ADER/KY

Yes, I have noticed this as well, using several difference email programs
under several OS’s.

SteveOn May 31, 2002 03:21 pm, you wrote:

That’s a bug in the internet, not in the mailing list.

This is why people should quote properly.On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 07:51:58PM +0200, CRV?ADER/KY wrote:

there’s a minor bug in the mailing list… I don’t receive messages exactly
cronologically. This way, sometimes I receive the answer to a question BEFORE the
question itself, and that makes the reading quite difficult.


Matthew Miller @Matthew_Miller http://www.mattdm.org/
Boston University Linux ------> http://linux.bu.edu/

This may or may not be something the list can resolve. Email is delivered
via an unreliable protocol. There is no guarantee that a message which was
sent 24hours in advance of a second message will in fact arrive before that
second message.

You can read these posts on the news server, btw. That should keep a
stricter ordering.
– Jeff

“Stephen Anthony” wrote in message
news:mailman.1022868788.3037.sdl at libsdl.org

there’s a minor bug in the mailing list… I don’t receive messages
exactly> On May 31, 2002 03:21 pm, you wrote:

cronologically. This way, sometimes I receive the answer to a question
BEFORE the question itself, and that makes the reading quite difficult.

Maybe you may want to fix it.

CRV?ADER/KY

Yes, I have noticed this as well, using several difference email programs
under several OS’s.

Steve

A threading mailreader, like Mutt, helps, as well.
(It also lets one more easily delete entire threads that are of little
interest. [Esc][D] is your friend :^) )

-bill!On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:31:13PM -0400, Jeff Duncan wrote:

You can read these posts on the news server, btw. That should keep a
stricter ordering.

Sorry if this is not completely on topic but…

Is there a way to either A) run an application created by project
builder with command line arguments OUTSIDE of project builder or B)
create an application with the flags included in it so i can just double
click on it? the problem is want to run multiple instances of my app,
one with a server flag, and one with a client flag, and it doesn’t seem
very possible. It would also probably be good for performance issues
not to have to run one of them within project builder.

jeff
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This may or may not be something the list can resolve. Email is delivered
via an unreliable protocol. There is no guarantee that a message which was
sent 24hours in advance of a second message will in fact arrive before that
second message.

That’s not the point. Timestamp should be correct, even if I receive one message before another one that has been
sent later. Messages should mantain the ORIGINAL timestamp while forwarding.

No, it’s a bug in the software. The message delivery in mailman CVS has
been totally rewritten, it may not have this problem anymore.On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:19:56PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:

That’s a bug in the internet, not in the mailing list.

This is why people should quote properly.


Joseph Carter <-- That boy needs therapy

but, then I used an Atari, I was more likely to win the lottery in
ten countries simultaneously than get accelerated X

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Yeah, I see that now. However, the original post said “I don’t receive
messages exactly cronologically” – nothing about “messages are re-dated
incorrectly”.On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:04:15PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:

No, it’s a bug in the software. The message delivery in mailman CVS has
been totally rewritten, it may not have this problem anymore.


Matthew Miller @Matthew_Miller http://www.mattdm.org/
Boston University Linux ------> http://linux.bu.edu/

This may or may not be something the list can resolve. Email is delivered
via an unreliable protocol. There is no guarantee that a message
which was
sent 24hours in advance of a second message will in fact arrive
before that
second message.

Seems only to be a problem on this mailing list !!! (And I’m on several
others also).

You can read these posts on the news server, btw. That should keep a
stricter ordering.

Oh… Where ? Didn’t see any information about that anywhere.

-Sam> – Jeff

“Stephen Anthony” wrote in message
news:mailman.1022868788.3037.sdl at libsdl.org

On May 31, 2002 03:21 pm, you wrote:

there’s a minor bug in the mailing list… I don’t receive messages
exactly

cronologically. This way, sometimes I receive the answer to a question
BEFORE the question itself, and that makes the reading quite
difficult.

Maybe you may want to fix it.

CRV?ADER/KY

Yes, I have noticed this as well, using several difference
email programs
under several OS’s.

Steve


SDL mailing list
SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl

Sorry if this is not completely on topic but…

Is there a way to either A) run an application created by project
builder with command line arguments OUTSIDE of project builder

In Terminal:

cd
./.app/Contents/MacOS/ …

or B) create an application with the flags included in it so i can
just double click on it? the problem is want to run multiple instances
of my app, one with a server flag, and one with a client flag, and it
doesn’t seem very possible.

3 things you can do:

Make two copies of SDLMain.m, one for each app. Insert the arguments you
want for each app into the main() procedure.

Compile two versions of your app (since you will have to anyways using
the above hack), use #ifdef to enable/disable features.

Factor out the common code and make two separate applications. Nice
because this avoids the potential #ifdef mess.

It would also probably be good for performance issues not to have to
run one of them within project builder.

Obviously you wouldn’t want to run a production/release app from Project
Builder. For development, the only place Project Builder slows you down
is if you have a lot of log (stdio) messages, since it traps those and
puts them in the project window. If you don’t have a lot of printfs, I
am pretty sure there is no performance degradation. Now that I think of
it, you’ll see the same sort of degradation using Terminal since that
will be rendering text like mad too. But with Terminal you can pipe the
stdio to /dev/null which will help a lot. Add “>& /dev/null” to the end
of the command I showed you to enable this.

Hope this helps,
Darrell

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URL: http://lists.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl-libsdl.org/attachments/20020531/f609e0f0/attachment.binOn Friday, May 31, 2002, at 02:49 PM, Jeff Ridenour wrote:

Yeah, I see that now. However, the original post said “I don’t receive
messages exactly cronologically” – nothing about “messages are re-dated
incorrectly”.

Sorry for the misexpression. I meant to say “messages are re-dated incorrectly”, in fact.