Windows xp and sdl

SDL Development
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hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very slowly on windows xp?

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hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very
slowly on windows xp?

I’m running XP here and it’s working as fast as DirectX is. I’m doing 2D
applications - don’t know if that matters or not. FWIW, Tux Racer runs
quickly and perfectly!

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ok, im just asking because i had someone test my app and they said it ran
slow.

If you feel especialy kind today do you think you could test it on your XP?

http://www.deionline.com/atrix/Download.asp

if you dont wanna, i understand, but if you do…i would very much apreciate
it!

(:> ----- Original Message -----

From: nb@synthcom.com (Neil Bradley)
To:
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SDL] windows xp and sdl

hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very
slowly on windows xp?

I’m running XP here and it’s working as fast as DirectX is. I’m doing 2D
applications - don’t know if that matters or not. FWIW, Tux Racer runs
quickly and perfectly!

–>Neil

Neil Bradley What are burger lovers saying
Synthcom Systems, Inc. about the new BK Back Porch Griller?
ICQ #29402898 “It tastes like it came off the back porch.” - Me

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hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very slowly on windows xp?

I heard that the default drivers that shipped with XP are very slow,
but if you install drivers from the vendor your OpenGL speeds right
back up again.

See ya,
-Sam Lantinga, Software Engineer, Blizzard Entertainment

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sam…i must say you are the man. Thanx (;> ----- Original Message -----

From: slouken@devolution.com (Sam Lantinga)
To:
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [SDL] windows xp and sdl

hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very
slowly on windows xp?

I heard that the default drivers that shipped with XP are very slow,
but if you install drivers from the vendor your OpenGL speeds right
back up again.

See ya,
-Sam Lantinga, Software Engineer, Blizzard Entertainment

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http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl

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ok, im just asking because i had someone test my app and they said it ran
slow.

If you feel especialy kind today do you think you could test it on your XP?

http://www.deionline.com/atrix/Download.asp

if you dont wanna, i understand, but if you do…i would very much apreciate
it!

(:

I personnaly don’t have XP anymore (switched to Linux a few weeks ago),
so I can’t test your stuff… but Sam is right on this, the OpenGL
drivers for my graphic card (standard GeForce2) shipping with XP were
extremely slow (I think it was software OpenGL – ie no hardware
acceleration) and knowing Micrsft, I guess they did it on purpose…On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 05:15, Atrix Wolfe wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: “Neil Bradley”
To:
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [SDL] windows xp and sdl

hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very
slowly on windows xp?

I’m running XP here and it’s working as fast as DirectX is. I’m doing 2D
applications - don’t know if that matters or not.

I guess your 2D applications don’t use OpenGL…

FWIW, Tux Racer runs quickly and perfectly!

–>Neil

See you,
-Ga?tan.

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I tested it and it is quite fast (the menu screen), i can’t play the game, though.
Because i’m behind a proxy.

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Yes, I have report this… My aplications in SDL are very slowly in Win Xp Pro but in a Win 2k its runs normally!
I?ll try clean my comput. and see what happen!
If anyone had a good idea, please tell me too, ok?

Thnx
Bertrand----- Original Message -----
From: Atrix Wolfe
To: sdl at libsdl.org
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:58 PM
Subject: [SDL] windows xp and sdl

hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very slowly on windows xp?

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Sam, sorry for ask this, but, where can i find this driver? (sorry, my
english is very very bad, but i keep trying)> ----- Original Message -----

From: slouken@devolution.com (Sam Lantinga)
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [SDL] windows xp and sdl

hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very
slowly on windows xp?

I heard that the default drivers that shipped with XP are very slow,
but if you install drivers from the vendor your OpenGL speeds right
back up again.

See ya,
-Sam Lantinga, Software Engineer, Blizzard Entertainment

SDL mailing list
SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl

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I personnaly don’t have XP anymore (switched to Linux a few weeks ago),
so I can’t test your stuff… but Sam is right on this, the OpenGL
drivers for my graphic card (standard GeForce2) shipping with XP were
extremely slow (I think it was software OpenGL – ie no hardware
acceleration) and knowing Micrsft, I guess they did it on purpose…

Video card drivers for the Geforce series of boards aren’t written by
Microsoft - they are done by NVIDIA. How is this their fault? I get it…
it’s another chance to bash MS. :wink:

hi, has anyone had any reports that SDL (or openGL maybe) runs very
slowly on windows xp?
I’m running XP here and it’s working as fast as DirectX is. I’m doing 2D
applications - don’t know if that matters or not.
I guess your 2D applications don’t use OpenGL…

No, but as I said below:

FWIW, Tux Racer runs quickly and perfectly!

Tux Racer does. Also, Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force and Quake III (and
those other games that use the Quake 3 engine) all work perfectly. FWIW,
I’m using a TI4600 card with the reference NVIDIA drivers.

–>Neil-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Neil Bradley What are burger lovers saying
Synthcom Systems, Inc. about the new BK Back Porch Griller?
ICQ #29402898 “It tastes like it came off the back porch.” - Me

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the reason you cant play is cause the server wasnt running and the game
itself doesnt quite exist yest hehe…

the client works almost like a web browser, and will accept “scripts” to run
from the server. The intro screens are actualy just scripts which use the
game engine so the game isnt completely unstarted yet, but it has a ways to
go before its playable i think. Im going to have the scripts of course
"compile" into bytecodes, and builds for intel systems will have the option
of having scripts compile to native machine code, so the scripts will be
damn fast and powerful.

Thanx for testing it thouh, I bet ms did that so OpenGL apeared slow while
directx apears fast. Its amazing they are so underhanded but that actualy
fits the pattern of what ive seen in the past. Thanx for testing it for me
(:> ----- Original Message -----

From: schiggl@web.de (Lion Vollnhals)
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SDL] windows xp and sdl

I tested it and it is quite fast (the menu screen), i can’t play the game,
though.
Because i’m behind a proxy.

Lion Vollnhals

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I think more specifically the suggestion was that OpenGL support in XP is, for
lack of a better term, crippled, without a vendor patch. It’s not the video
card driver per se.

-Cliff L. BiffleOn Tuesday 03 September 2002 09:00 am, Neil Bradley wrote:

Video card drivers for the Geforce series of boards aren’t written by
Microsoft - they are done by NVIDIA. How is this their fault? I get it…
it’s another chance to bash MS. :wink:

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Hi Neil,

NB> Video card drivers for the Geforce series of boards aren’t written by
NB> Microsoft - they are done by NVIDIA. How is this their fault? I get it…
NB> it’s another chance to bash MS. :wink:

In this case though, for once, the MS bashing is kind of deserved. MS
removed hardware OpenGL support from the drivers which shipped with Windows
XP. This is because, of course, they want everyone to use DirectX.
OTOH, you can understand that they don’t want to support OpenGL too,
so it DOES make sense. It’s not really the job of the Operating System
to support OpenGL - and I doubt anyone can dispute that (though you
can try!).

It wasn’t a secret though, I’m quite surprised that people have
mentioned it! Anyway, it can all be fixed by downloading the latest
drivers for your video card (which will have the required hardware
support for OpenGL). Which is good advice 99.9% of the time. :slight_smile:

Neil.

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Well, Neil, MS does offer sooo many opportunities.
:-)On Tuesday 03 September 2002 09:00 am, you wrote:

I get it… it’s another chance to bash MS. :wink:

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I get it… it’s another chance to bash MS. :wink:
Well, Neil, MS does offer sooo many opportunities.
:slight_smile:

So does Linux and the jillions of variants thereof, but it’s not
fashionable to bash them I guess. :wink:

–>Neil-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Neil Bradley What are burger lovers saying
Synthcom Systems, Inc. about the new BK Back Porch Griller?
ICQ #29402898 “It tastes like it came off the back porch.” - Me

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I get it… it’s another chance to bash MS. :wink:
Well, Neil, MS does offer sooo many opportunities.
:slight_smile:

So does Linux and the jillions of variants thereof, but it’s not
fashionable to bash them I guess. :wink:

Off topic, please, no bashing.

Thanks,
-Sam Lantinga, Software Engineer, Blizzard Entertainment