New website: feedback requested!

Also, I believe Sam and Ryan have both addressed
the wiki speed issues, and it is much faster now.

Ah, well, it really got better, down to around 1000 ms for the initial
GET for me.

Although, javascript and css not being cached (why?) still the reason
for awful time-to-display,
and occassional spikes of up to 3000 ms frustrate.

I think OpenGL’s GLAPI pages with their stable 600+/-100ms
time-to-display should be something to strive for.

Also it’s not like I decided to use OpenGL because of opengl.org’s
pretty looks, and neither the SDL’s situation differ any much from
that. There really isn’t any alternative in the niche, it isn’t a game
engine after all, so the focus shifts from pure marketing to catering
to developers’ need of good reference material, and that’s where the
wiki performance is critical.

That’s a site about a library, no? Kinda expect the most used part
would be the API documentation, examples and caveats, not some
flashbang about being great.

This is a common complaint, and the common answer is: the wiki is community
driven, so it is up to the community to keep it up to date.

My complaint wasn’t about the wiki content - it was about its speed
issues, which are, for the most part, the reason of problems with its
content. And the speed issues aren’t something the community normally
can fix without forking the wiki.

Doing web-highload stuff for about seven years already I can certainly
help with that, but just the wiki access won’t enable me to.On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alex Barry <alex.barry at gmail.com> wrote:

./lxnt

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

I’m busily adding commercial games to the featured games pool.

I’ve removed the news and game/application lists for now since I want to
reset with fresh content for the SDL 2.0 release. I’ll add them again
later after the 2.0 release if people really like that feature.

Enjoy!On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

Julian Winter has been working on a redesign of the SDL website.

You can see it here:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php
Note that the dynamic content is all placeholder for now.

Please reply to this thread with your feedback.

Once we’ve gotten feedback and are happy with it, I’ll be updating it with
SDL 2.0 content.

Cheers!

It appears that the dark theme on the license page, downloads and several
other pages are showing a black rectangle background around the text rather
than the dark gray like the about page. The about page looks great. If
those areas you would like a box around them, i think using a thin line
like the one that appears under the header would work well, otherwise just
match the style of the about screen.

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU

Torsten,
I just tried with Chrome and Konqueror and it works fine. Tried with
Firefox and I’m seeing the same problem. It’s not your monitor, it’s the
browser.

I tested with Firefox 23.0 and that seems to be the problem.On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

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Julian fixed this, thanks!On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

It appears that the dark theme on the license page, downloads and several
other pages are showing a black rectangle background around the text rather
than the dark gray like the about page. The about page looks great. If
those areas you would like a box around them, i think using a thin line
like the one that appears under the header would work well, otherwise just
match the style of the about screen.


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This should be fixed, can you verify?On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

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This happened to me (Firefox 22 / 1600x900), but all is well now!

– DavidOn 09/08/13 13:09, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl <wizard at syntheticsw.com <mailto:wizard at syntheticsw.com>> wrote:

Hello !


 > Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
 > http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png


CU


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Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in Firefox
23.0 now :)On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU


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Don’t show your buts on the landing - About - page. :wink:

— Edits follow —

SDL supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Other officially
unsupported platforms are included in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to several
other languages - including C# and Python.On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in Firefox
23.0 now :slight_smile:

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU


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Unofficially supported, maybe?

Jonny DOn Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

Don’t show your buts on the landing - About - page. :wink:

— Edits follow —

SDL supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Other officially
unsupported platforms are included in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to several
other languages - including C# and Python.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in Firefox
23.0 now :slight_smile:

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU


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I was hesitant to reword it that way given I am not entirely sure what the
original intent of “but those are not officially supported.” was. Does this
mean they are unmaintained, under tested, or just that no official builds
are provided?On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

Unofficially supported, maybe?

Jonny D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Nicholas Rishel <@Nicholas_Rishel>wrote:

Don’t show your buts on the landing - About - page. :wink:

— Edits follow —

SDL supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Other officially
unsupported platforms are included in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to several
other languages - including C# and Python.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in
Firefox 23.0 now :slight_smile:

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU


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How about something like: “SDL officially supports Windows, Mac OS X,
Linux, iOS, and Android. Support for other platforms may be found in the
source.”

That way it’s not contrary and doesn’t sound awkward either.

Jonny DOn Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

I was hesitant to reword it that way given I am not entirely sure what the
original intent of “but those are not officially supported.” was. Does this
mean they are unmaintained, under tested, or just that no official builds
are provided?

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

Unofficially supported, maybe?

Jonny D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

Don’t show your buts on the landing - About - page. :wink:

— Edits follow —

SDL supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Other
officially unsupported platforms are included in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to
several other languages - including C# and Python.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in
Firefox 23.0 now :slight_smile:

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU


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That’s much better. :slight_smile:

— Recap —

SDL officially supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Support
for other platforms may be found in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to several
other languages - including C# and Python.On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

How about something like: “SDL officially supports Windows, Mac OS X,
Linux, iOS, and Android. Support for other platforms may be found in the
source.”

That way it’s not contrary and doesn’t sound awkward either.

Jonny D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Nicholas Rishel <@Nicholas_Rishel>wrote:

I was hesitant to reword it that way given I am not entirely sure what
the original intent of “but those are not officially supported.” was. Does
this mean they are unmaintained, under tested, or just that no official
builds are provided?

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

Unofficially supported, maybe?

Jonny D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Nicholas Rishel <@Nicholas_Rishel>wrote:

Don’t show your buts on the landing - About - page. :wink:

— Edits follow —

SDL supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Other
officially unsupported platforms are included in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to
several other languages - including C# and Python.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in
Firefox 23.0 now :slight_smile:

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl <wizard at syntheticsw.com wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

CU


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Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Nice, lean and clean.

I’m busily adding commercial games to the featured games pool.

I can’t help but think a link to a list of all of them on one page would be
nice. I wanted to know them all but I quickly got tired of reloading the
page just for that…

I’ve removed the news and game/application lists for now since I want to

reset with fresh content for the SDL 2.0 release. I’ll add them again
later after the 2.0 release if people really like that feature.

:frowning: (but I am obviously biased)On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

Nice, thanks!On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

That’s much better. :slight_smile:

— Recap —

SDL officially supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android.
Support for other platforms may be found in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to several
other languages - including C# and Python.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

How about something like: “SDL officially supports Windows, Mac OS X,
Linux, iOS, and Android. Support for other platforms may be found in the
source.”

That way it’s not contrary and doesn’t sound awkward either.

Jonny D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

I was hesitant to reword it that way given I am not entirely sure what
the original intent of “but those are not officially supported.” was. Does
this mean they are unmaintained, under tested, or just that no official
builds are provided?

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

Unofficially supported, maybe?

Jonny D

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

Don’t show your buts on the landing - About - page. :wink:

— Edits follow —

SDL supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, iOS, and Android. Other
officially unsupported platforms are included in the source.

SDL is written in C, works natively with C++, and has bindings to
several other languages - including C# and Python.

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Jonathan Greig wrote:

Sam,
The boxes are looking good now and the page seems to work fine in
Firefox 23.0 now :slight_smile:

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken>wrote:

This should be fixed, can you verify?

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Torsten Giebl < wizard at syntheticsw.com> wrote:

Hello !

Hey everyone, this is close to the final release website:
http://www.libsdl.org/new/index.php

Just tested this website on a PC with an old CRT monitor
and low resolution 1024x768, the two pictures hide some
word endings :

http://www.syntheticsw.com/~wizard/tmp/new_sdl_website_problem.png

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