Resume on SDL Android

JonnyD · March 29, 2013, 4:42am

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably when
resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes back from
pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with it at all.
When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my code, but
subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

Gabriel_Jacobo · March 29, 2013, 2:49pm

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably when
resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes back
from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with it at
all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my code,
but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks itself,
other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?–
Gabriel.

JonnyD · March 29, 2013, 4:35pm

Here’s what I get when BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 1:

03-29 12:22:31.844: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.860: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.875: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.899: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.907: V/SDL(12394): surfaceDestroyed()
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): nativePause
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Android_Window
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Post PauseSem
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Sending pause events
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 0)
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_SIZE_CHANGED
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): isPaused && !isPausing
03-29 12:22:32.086: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 1)

Then it blocks and is in the background…

When I resume…

03-29 12:22:50.602: V/SDL(12394): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): Window size:800x1280

Then nothing else. Black screen, no input response.

With BLOCK_ON_PAUSE set to 0, the same sort of thing happens. When the app
is paused, it repeats Pump, isPaused, and this queue error continually.
Then it does this on resume:

03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.711: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.727: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.743: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.750: V/SDL(12790): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.758: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.766: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.782: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): Window size:800x1280
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.790: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.805: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused

Then it repeats the Pump, isPaused, and queue error forever with a black
screen and no interaction. So, essentially the same as with BLOCK_ON_PAUSE.

Jonny DOn Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gabriel Jacobo wrote:

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably when
resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes back
from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with it at
all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my code,
but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks itself,
other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?

–
Gabriel.

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JonnyD · March 29, 2013, 4:50pm

To be more clear, the logs within the if(SDL_Sem*Wait(Android_ResumeSem) ==
0) are not happening, so it seems that the Android_ResumeSem is not being
released.

Jonny DOn Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

Here’s what I get when BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 1:

03-29 12:22:31.844: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.860: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.875: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.899: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.907: V/SDL(12394): surfaceDestroyed()
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): nativePause
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Android_Window
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Post PauseSem
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Sending pause events
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 0)
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_SIZE_CHANGED
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): isPaused && !isPausing
03-29 12:22:32.086: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 1)

Then it blocks and is in the background…

When I resume…

03-29 12:22:50.602: V/SDL(12394): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): Window size:800x1280

Then nothing else. Black screen, no input response.

With BLOCK_ON_PAUSE set to 0, the same sort of thing happens. When the
app is paused, it repeats Pump, isPaused, and this queue error continually.
Then it does this on resume:

03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.711: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.727: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.743: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.750: V/SDL(12790): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.758: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.766: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.782: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): Window size:800x1280
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.790: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.805: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused

Then it repeats the Pump, isPaused, and queue error forever with a black
screen and no interaction. So, essentially the same as with BLOCK_ON_PAUSE.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gabriel Jacobo wrote:

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably
when resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes back
from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with it at
all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my code,
but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains
blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks itself,
other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?

–
Gabriel.

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JonnyD · March 29, 2013, 5:22pm

It seems inconsistent. I have actually gotten it to resume, but more often
it does this on resume:

03-29 13:15:50.100: V/SDL(16780): surfaceCreated()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): surfaceChanged()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): Window size:800x1280
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mSDLThread is not null
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mIsPaused is false

So SDLActivity.mIsPaused is not getting set all the time on pause or it is
not surviving until the resume call. That makes my app thread block. :-/
Is it reasonably safe to remove the check on mIsPaused? What else could
cause this?

Jonny DOn Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

To be more clear, the logs within the if(SDL_Sem*Wait(Android_ResumeSem)
== 0) are not happening, so it seems that the Android_ResumeSem is not
being released.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

Here’s what I get when BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 1:

03-29 12:22:31.844: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.860: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.875: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.899: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.907: V/SDL(12394): surfaceDestroyed()
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): nativePause
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Android_Window
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Post PauseSem
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Sending pause events
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 0)
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_SIZE_CHANGED
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): isPaused && !isPausing
03-29 12:22:32.086: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 1)

Then it blocks and is in the background…

When I resume…

03-29 12:22:50.602: V/SDL(12394): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): Window size:800x1280

Then nothing else. Black screen, no input response.

With BLOCK_ON_PAUSE set to 0, the same sort of thing happens. When the
app is paused, it repeats Pump, isPaused, and this queue error continually.
Then it does this on resume:

03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.711: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.727: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.743: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.750: V/SDL(12790): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.758: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.766: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.782: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): Window size:800x1280
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.790: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.805: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused

Then it repeats the Pump, isPaused, and queue error forever with a black
screen and no interaction. So, essentially the same as with BLOCK_ON_PAUSE.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gabriel Jacobo wrote:

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably
when resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes back
from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with it at
all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my code,
but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains
blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks itself,
other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?

–
Gabriel.

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JonnyD · March 30, 2013, 2:09pm

Ah, I think I got it. On my device, onCreate() is being called on resume.
Is that expected? Anyhow, onCreate() sets mIsPaused to false. The
solution, in my view, is to set mIsPaused to false at its declaration
(public static boolean mIsPaused = false;) and remove the setting in
onCreate() (mIsPaused = false;) so that its value survives future
onCreate() calls. It’s working so far!

Jonny DOn Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

It seems inconsistent. I have actually gotten it to resume, but more
often it does this on resume:

03-29 13:15:50.100: V/SDL(16780): surfaceCreated()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): surfaceChanged()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): Window size:800x1280
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mSDLThread is not null
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mIsPaused is false

So SDLActivity.mIsPaused is not getting set all the time on pause or it is
not surviving until the resume call. That makes my app thread block. :-/
Is it reasonably safe to remove the check on mIsPaused? What else could
cause this?

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

To be more clear, the logs within the if(SDL_Sem*Wait(Android_ResumeSem)
== 0) are not happening, so it seems that the Android_ResumeSem is not
being released.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

Here’s what I get when BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 1:

03-29 12:22:31.844: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.860: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.875: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.899: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.907: V/SDL(12394): surfaceDestroyed()
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): nativePause
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Android_Window
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Post PauseSem
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Sending pause events
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 0)
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_SIZE_CHANGED
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): isPaused && !isPausing
03-29 12:22:32.086: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 1)

Then it blocks and is in the background…

When I resume…

03-29 12:22:50.602: V/SDL(12394): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): Window size:800x1280

Then nothing else. Black screen, no input response.

With BLOCK_ON_PAUSE set to 0, the same sort of thing happens. When the
app is paused, it repeats Pump, isPaused, and this queue error continually.
Then it does this on resume:

03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.711: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.727: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.743: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.750: V/SDL(12790): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.758: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.766: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.782: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): Window size:800x1280
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.790: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.805: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused

Then it repeats the Pump, isPaused, and queue error forever with a black
screen and no interaction. So, essentially the same as with BLOCK_ON_PAUSE.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gabriel Jacobo wrote:

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably
when resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes back
from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with it at
all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my code,
but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains
blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks itself,
other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?

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Gabriel_Jacobo · March 30, 2013, 3:18pm

Good find! Can you send me a patch or upload it to Bugzilla? I’ll test and
commit it.

2013/3/30 Jonathan Dearborn > Ah, I think I got it. On my device, onCreate() is being called on resume.

Is that expected? Anyhow, onCreate() sets mIsPaused to false. The
solution, in my view, is to set mIsPaused to false at its declaration
(public static boolean mIsPaused = false;) and remove the setting in
onCreate() (mIsPaused = false;) so that its value survives future
onCreate() calls. It’s working so far!

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

It seems inconsistent. I have actually gotten it to resume, but more
often it does this on resume:

03-29 13:15:50.100: V/SDL(16780): surfaceCreated()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): surfaceChanged()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): Window size:800x1280
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mSDLThread is not null
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mIsPaused is false

So SDLActivity.mIsPaused is not getting set all the time on pause or it
is not surviving until the resume call. That makes my app thread block.
:-/ Is it reasonably safe to remove the check on mIsPaused? What else
could cause this?

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Dearborn wrote:

To be more clear, the logs within the if(SDL_Sem*Wait(Android_ResumeSem)
== 0) are not happening, so it seems that the Android_ResumeSem is not
being released.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <grimfang4 at gmail.com wrote:

Here’s what I get when BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 1:

03-29 12:22:31.844: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.860: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.875: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.899: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.907: V/SDL(12394): surfaceDestroyed()
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): nativePause
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Android_Window
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Post PauseSem
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Sending pause events
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 0)
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_SIZE_CHANGED
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): isPaused && !isPausing
03-29 12:22:32.086: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 1)

Then it blocks and is in the background…

When I resume…

03-29 12:22:50.602: V/SDL(12394): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): Window size:800x1280

Then nothing else. Black screen, no input response.

With BLOCK_ON_PAUSE set to 0, the same sort of thing happens. When the
app is paused, it repeats Pump, isPaused, and this queue error continually.
Then it does this on resume:

03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.711: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.727: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.743: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.750: V/SDL(12790): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.758: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.766: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.782: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): Window size:800x1280
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.790: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.805: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused

Then it repeats the Pump, isPaused, and queue error forever with a
black screen and no interaction. So, essentially the same as with
BLOCK_ON_PAUSE.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gabriel Jacobo <@Gabriel_Jacobo>wrote:

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably
when resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes
back from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with
it at all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my
code, but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains
blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks
itself, other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?

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JonnyD · March 30, 2013, 3:37pm

Yep, here ya go: http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1776

Jonny DOn Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Gabriel Jacobo wrote:

Good find! Can you send me a patch or upload it to Bugzilla? I’ll test and
commit it.

2013/3/30 Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>

Ah, I think I got it. On my device, onCreate() is being called on
resume. Is that expected? Anyhow, onCreate() sets mIsPaused to false.
The solution, in my view, is to set mIsPaused to false at its declaration
(public static boolean mIsPaused = false;) and remove the setting in
onCreate() (mIsPaused = false;) so that its value survives future
onCreate() calls. It’s working so far!

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>wrote:

It seems inconsistent. I have actually gotten it to resume, but more
often it does this on resume:

03-29 13:15:50.100: V/SDL(16780): surfaceCreated()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): surfaceChanged()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): Window size:800x1280
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp()
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mSDLThread is not null
03-29 13:15:50.147: V/SDL(16780): startApp() mIsPaused is false

So SDLActivity.mIsPaused is not getting set all the time on pause or it
is not surviving until the resume call. That makes my app thread block.
:-/ Is it reasonably safe to remove the check on mIsPaused? What else
could cause this?

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn wrote:

To be more clear, the logs within the
if(SDL_Sem*Wait(Android_ResumeSem) == 0) are not happening, so it seems
that the Android_ResumeSem is not being released.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Dearborn < @Jonathan_Dearborn> wrote:

Here’s what I get when BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 1:

03-29 12:22:31.844: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.860: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.875: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.899: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.907: V/SDL(12394): surfaceDestroyed()
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): nativePause
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Android_Window
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Post PauseSem
03-29 12:22:31.907: W/SDL/APP(12394): Sending pause events
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 0)
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_SIZE_CHANGED
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.954: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:31.954: E/APPLICATION(12394): SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:31.961: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pausing
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): Pump
03-29 12:22:32.079: W/SDL/APP(12394): isPaused && !isPausing
03-29 12:22:32.086: D/OpenGLRenderer(12394): Flushing caches (mode 1)

Then it blocks and is in the background…

When I resume…

03-29 12:22:50.602: V/SDL(12394): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:22:50.633: V/SDL(12394): Window size:800x1280

Then nothing else. Black screen, no input response.

With BLOCK_ON_PAUSE set to 0, the same sort of thing happens. When
the app is paused, it repeats Pump, isPaused, and this queue error
continually. Then it does this on resume:

03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.711: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.711: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.719: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.727: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.735: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.743: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.750: V/SDL(12790): surfaceCreated()
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.758: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.758: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.766: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.766: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.782: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.782: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): surfaceChanged()
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): pixel format RGB_565
03-29 12:25:56.790: V/SDL(12790): Window size:800x1280
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.790: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.790: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.805: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused
03-29 12:25:56.805: E/SurfaceTextureClient(12790): queueBuffer: error
queuing buffer to SurfaceTexture, -19
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): Pump
03-29 12:25:56.821: W/SDL/APP(12790): isPaused

Then it repeats the Pump, isPaused, and queue error forever with a
black screen and no interaction. So, essentially the same as with
BLOCK_ON_PAUSE.

Jonny D

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Gabriel Jacobo wrote:

2013/3/29 Jonathan Dearborn <@Jonathan_Dearborn>

I’ve been having trouble getting my Android app to behave acceptably
when resumed from pause. I receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_LOST
and SDL_WINDOWEVENT_MINIMIZED, but I never
receive SDL_WINDOWEVENT_FOCUS_GAINED or SDL_WINDOWEVENT_RESTORED.

Whether or not I enable SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE, the app comes
back from pause as a black screen and it seems that I can’t interact with
it at all. When SDL_ANDROID_BLOCK_ON_PAUSE is 0, control remains with my
code, but subsequent OpenGL calls do nothing.

Perhaps my GL context is being lost? Maybe a Java thread remains
blocked?

I’m running Android 4.0.3 on a Kindle Fire HD 7.

Jonny D

You do need to keep the message pump going until the app blocks
itself, other than that I’ve no suggestions.

Can you add a few print statements
in Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativePause,
Java_org_libsdl_app_SDLActivity_nativeResume and Android_PumpEvents to see
where it may be getting stuck?

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