Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).
Is SDL being abandoned ? Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?
I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…
Sorry if I’m wrong…
[]s,
Herbert
sniff sniff … what’s that I smell… is it SDL 2.0? perhaps …On Tuesday 24 June 2003 7:19 am, Herbert G. Fischer wrote:
Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).Is SDL being abandoned ? Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…Sorry if I’m wrong…
[]s,
Herbert
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I think actually, the main activity is bug fixes on the different
environment. Patch are submitted regularly. I don’t think there are
developpement to improve the actual architecture.
SDL 2. I can’t tell anything. I don’t know if someone is working on its
development. Sam ?
I am also interested by such topics.
Julien> ----- Original Message -----
From: nospam@pontoip.com.br (Herbert G. Fischer)
To: “SDL”
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: [SDL] SDL 1.2.6 (or next release)Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).Is SDL being abandoned ? Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…Sorry if I’m wrong…
[]s,
Herbert
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Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).Is SDL being abandoned ?
Hardly. Too many active users that also contribute patches - and the
original core developers are still around. They are apparently
working on the upcoming SDL 1.3/2.0 branch, which AFAIK, will be a
pretty much complete rewrite.
Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?
Why new releases? Is there something that needs fixing?
I get the feeling that you’re stuck in the commercial style “make new
releases to sell the same software again” deal. 
I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…
Everything can and will die some day. With proprietary products, that
normally means that you’re screwed, unless you can afford to migrate
to another product. This is a very real problem, especially for
embedded products that often have a very long life time. (Still
maintaning an 8 year old embedded DOS application - and that’s by no
means “old stuff” in the field I work!)
However, with Free/Open Source software like SDL, it’s not much of a
problem. Even in the unlikely case that you’re the only user still
around, you still have the full source and the right to actually use
it (ie modify it and use the modified versions), so you can maintain
it all by yourself if you have to.
That said, I find it extremely unlikely that you’ll be left alone with
SDL any time soon. There is a big community around it, and
(obviously) we’re all coders, and thus, many of us are potential
maintainers, should Sam decide to move on to other things.
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -’
— http://olofson.net — http://www.reologica.se —On Tuesday 24 June 2003 16.19, Herbert G. Fischer wrote:
I wish I knew!
Samuel wrote:> sniff sniff … what’s that I smell… is it SDL 2.0? perhaps …
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 7:19 am, Herbert G. Fischer wrote:
Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).Is SDL being abandoned ? Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…Sorry if I’m wrong…
[]s,
Herbert
SDL mailing list
SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl
Maybe I can help on SDL 2.0 ???
Sam ???
David Olofson wrote:> On Tuesday 24 June 2003 16.19, Herbert G. Fischer wrote:
Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).Is SDL being abandoned ?
Hardly. Too many active users that also contribute patches - and the
original core developers are still around. They are apparently
working on the upcoming SDL 1.3/2.0 branch, which AFAIK, will be a
pretty much complete rewrite.Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?Why new releases? Is there something that needs fixing?
I get the feeling that you’re stuck in the commercial style “make new
releases to sell the same software again” deal.I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…Everything can and will die some day. With proprietary products, that
normally means that you’re screwed, unless you can afford to migrate
to another product. This is a very real problem, especially for
embedded products that often have a very long life time. (Still
maintaning an 8 year old embedded DOS application - and that’s by no
means “old stuff” in the field I work!)However, with Free/Open Source software like SDL, it’s not much of a
problem. Even in the unlikely case that you’re the only user still
around, you still have the full source and the right to actually use
it (ie modify it and use the modified versions), so you can maintain
it all by yourself if you have to.That said, I find it extremely unlikely that you’ll be left alone with
SDL any time soon. There is a big community around it, and
(obviously) we’re all coders, and thus, many of us are potential
maintainers, should Sam decide to move on to other things.//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -’
— http://olofson.net — http://www.reologica.se —
SDL mailing list
SDL at libsdl.org
http://www.libsdl.org/mailman/listinfo/sdl
Maybe I can help on SDL 2.0 ???
Well, it seems to be a private discussion right now. No one knows when
the new branch will be officially started, it seems.
Sam ???
Sam Lantinga; the author and maintainer of SDL. 
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -’
— http://olofson.net — http://www.reologica.se —On Tuesday 24 June 2003 17.38, Herbert G. Fischer wrote:
Hi,
I saw that SDL is on 1.2.5 a lot of time, and
that the activity about SDL is very low ( I think ).
SDL is very stable therefore you don’t see huge piles of new features
and millions of bug fixes being released left and right. The code works.
Personally, I would be worried to use a library that was changing every
day.
Is SDL being abandoned ?
Hardly.
Can I help on SDL development
to launch new releases ?I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…
Everything has the potential to die. You can use something like SDL
where the source is available and you can use it forever even if other
people stop using it. Or, you can use something like DirectX, which you
know is going to be replaced every year or so.
Sorry if I’m wrong…
Apology accepted.
[]s,
Herbert
Bob PendletonOn Tue, 2003-06-24 at 09:19, Herbert G. Fischer wrote:
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Well, I’ve posted several times about my Actuator support patch for SDL
(check my homepage). I thought it was rather good. I’ve not had any
feedback either way from anyone on this list though. I realise we are
all busy people, but I think its time to get Actuator support for Devices.
Cheers
JG
Where is your homepage located ?
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----Von: sdl-admin at libsdl.org [mailto:sdl-admin at libsdl.org] Im Auftrag von
J. Grant
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 21:45
An: sdl at libsdl.org
Betreff: Re: [SDL] SDL 1.2.6 (or next release)
Well, I’ve posted several times about my Actuator support patch for SDL
(check my homepage). I thought it was rather good. I’ve not had any
feedback either way from anyone on this list though. I realise we are
all busy people, but I think its time to get Actuator support for
Devices.
Cheers
JG
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I have a little fear to start using something that
someday can die…Everything has the potential to die. You can use something like SDL
where the source is available and you can use it forever even if other
people stop using it. Or, you can use something like DirectX, which you
know is going to be replaced every year or so.This is a very good point. It means that the internals of SDL will change to
accomodate any updates to DirectX, but the external SDL API will remain the
same.-Luke
----- Original Message -----
From: bob@pendleton.com (Bob Pendleton)
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: SDL 1.2.6 (or next release)
Has anyone gotten around to integrating the mmx bliting patches that
have been submitted to the list?
They speed up sdl by quite a bit. Be nice if they could be in the next
release
J. Grant wrote:> Well, I’ve posted several times about my Actuator support patch for
SDL (check my homepage). I thought it was rather good. I’ve not had
any feedback either way from anyone on this list though. I realise we
are all busy people, but I think its time to get Actuator support for
Devices.Cheers
Cheers
JG
on the 24/06/03 23:03, Andre Krause wrote:> Where is your homepage located ?
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: sdl-admin at libsdl.org [mailto:sdl-admin at libsdl.org] Im Auftrag von
J. Grant
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 21:45
An: sdl at libsdl.org
Betreff: Re: [SDL] SDL 1.2.6 (or next release)Well, I’ve posted several times about my Actuator support patch for SDL
(check my homepage). I thought it was rather good. I’ve not had any
feedback either way from anyone on this list though. I realise we are
all busy people, but I think its time to get Actuator support for
Devices.Cheers
JG
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