SDL 2.0.0 Release Candidate 1

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam

Exciting stuff!

The links on that page are broken, though. :slight_smile:

– DavidOn 27/05/13 12:20, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

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Cheers!
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Great. What about mixer, ttf and image libs? are you going to release 2.0.0
for them, too today?Am 27.05.2013 06:44 schrieb “David Gow” :

Exciting stuff!

The links on that page are broken, though. :slight_smile:

– David

On 27/05/13 12:20, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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Fixed! :)On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM, David Gow wrote:

Exciting stuff!

The links on that page are broken, though. :slight_smile:

– David

On 27/05/13 12:20, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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Not today, but I’m working on them.On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM, M. Gerhardy <martin.gerhardy at gmail.com>wrote:

Great. What about mixer, ttf and image libs? are you going to release
2.0.0 for them, too today?
Am 27.05.2013 06:44 schrieb “David Gow” :

Exciting stuff!

The links on that page are broken, though. :slight_smile:

– David

On 27/05/13 12:20, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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You’re the man, Sam, I’ll start fiddling with this tonight.On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

Not today, but I’m working on them.

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM, M. Gerhardy <martin.gerhardy at gmail.com>wrote:

Great. What about mixer, ttf and image libs? are you going to release
2.0.0 for them, too today?
Am 27.05.2013 06:44 schrieb “David Gow” :

Exciting stuff!

The links on that page are broken, though. :slight_smile:

– David

On 27/05/13 12:20, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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Sam wrote:

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

I don’t use the framework (I use a static library), so I re-pulled the archive. I’m wondering if I’m mixing a branch, because there’s no difference from last time. I’ll check win32 as soon as I can, but:

iOS: This seems to work perfectly from my testing. I have no problems here.
OSX: Still not hiding the mouse when entering relative mouse mode (This is already in bugzilla.)

[>] Brian

The wiki should be snappy again:
http://wiki.libsdl.org

Please send me your wiki login if you would like to contribute to the wiki.

Cheers!On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam

Sorry to detour from the main topic, but I was curious as to why the Wiki
is locked down still? I would think that would detract from spur of the
moment corrections. Is there no way to allow submission of "suggested"
changes?On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:
http://wiki.libsdl.org

Please send me your wiki login if you would like to contribute to the wiki.

Cheers!

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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Because spammers are continually trying to get access. The SDL wiki shows
up high on Google searches and is a juicy spam target.

It would be really nice to allow everyone on the list to have access, but I
don’t have an easy way to do that. If you want access though, just ask,
I’ll be happy to give it to you.On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

Sorry to detour from the main topic, but I was curious as to why the Wiki
is locked down still? I would think that would detract from spur of the
moment corrections. Is there no way to allow submission of "suggested"
changes?

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:
http://wiki.libsdl.org

Please send me your wiki login if you would like to contribute to the
wiki.

Cheers!

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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Am I understanding correctly that if there were a way to suggest fixes -
for review - it would be bombarded by spam to a point of uselessness?On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

Because spammers are continually trying to get access. The SDL wiki shows
up high on Google searches and is a juicy spam target.

It would be really nice to allow everyone on the list to have access, but
I don’t have an easy way to do that. If you want access though, just ask,
I’ll be happy to give it to you.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Rishel <@Nicholas_Rishel>wrote:

Sorry to detour from the main topic, but I was curious as to why the Wiki
is locked down still? I would think that would detract from spur of the
moment corrections. Is there no way to allow submission of "suggested"
changes?

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:
http://wiki.libsdl.org

Please send me your wiki login if you would like to contribute to the
wiki.

Cheers!

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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I am sorry if this has been answered on the mailing list recently, or if it is on the wiki (and I am not seeing it)

We use SDL 1.2, and by and large it works for us, except that SDL_mixer has issues. I am curious if there have been improvements since 1.2 that would make this nicer? In the version we have, it becomes unstable if we allow for stopping, pausing, resuming, or starting from a position further than the beginning if it is done too often. We also have trouble with users needing/wanting more than one MP3 track. Have there been changes in the new version or underlying fixes in SDL’s audio support that may be helpful?

I also am curious how stable you believe Android and iOS to be, as well as whether it is simple to extend with custom Objective-C or Java instead of a full-screen app. We maintain separate Android and iOS targets that do not rely on SDL, but merging onto one low-level API would be nice. We use SDL for BlackBerry, Windows, Mac and Linux (and legacy webOS support), which makes the maintenance much better.

Thanks for your help and congratulations on the release candidate!On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:20:44 -0700, Sam Lantinga wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam

No, there’s already a feedback panel in the upper right that allows you to
do that.On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

Am I understanding correctly that if there were a way to suggest fixes -
for review - it would be bombarded by spam to a point of uselessness?

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

Because spammers are continually trying to get access. The SDL wiki
shows up high on Google searches and is a juicy spam target.

It would be really nice to allow everyone on the list to have access, but
I don’t have an easy way to do that. If you want access though, just ask,
I’ll be happy to give it to you.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Nicholas Rishel <rishel.nick at gmail.com>wrote:

Sorry to detour from the main topic, but I was curious as to why the
Wiki is locked down still? I would think that would detract from spur of
the moment corrections. Is there no way to allow submission of "suggested"
changes?

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken>wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:
http://wiki.libsdl.org

Please send me your wiki login if you would like to contribute to the
wiki.

Cheers!

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken>wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


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The latest version of SDL_mixer drops MP3 support by default in favor of
Vorbis, given licensing and patent issues. If you need to stick with MP3,
then you should probably keep what you have.

The iOS and Android versions are pretty stable. I just released an iOS
game earlier this month using SDL 2.0:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/equate-game/id571543425?mt=8
For iOS it’s pretty easy to to add your own custom views. We had to
support that for Game Center support and so forth.

I haven’t released an Android game myself, but other people have, and can
speak to how well that works. I don’t know how easy it is to extend with
Java UI, but you can extend the SDL base activity class and customize it
for your needs.

The video API between 1.2 and 2.0 is completely different. It’s been
largely rewritten to support hardware acceleration and mobile devices. You
should carefully weigh the benefits of upgrading before diving into it. :slight_smile:

Cheers!On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Joshua Granick wrote:

**
I am sorry if this has been answered on the mailing list recently, or if
it is on the wiki (and I am not seeing it)

We use SDL 1.2, and by and large it works for us, except that SDL_mixer
has issues. I am curious if there have been improvements since 1.2 that
would make this nicer? In the version we have, it becomes unstable if we
allow for stopping, pausing, resuming, or starting from a position further
than the beginning if it is done too often. We also have trouble with users
needing/wanting more than one MP3 track. Have there been changes in the new
version or underlying fixes in SDL’s audio support that may be helpful?

I also am curious how stable you believe Android and iOS to be, as well as
whether it is simple to extend with custom Objective-C or Java instead of a
full-screen app. We maintain separate Android and iOS targets that do not
rely on SDL, but merging onto one low-level API would be nice. We use SDL
for BlackBerry, Windows, Mac and Linux (and legacy webOS support), which
makes the maintenance much better.

Thanks for your help and congratulations on the release candidate!

On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:20:44 -0700, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

http://www.libsdl.org/tmp/download-2.0.php

Please try it out and report issues (and fixes!) on bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.libsdl.org/

Cheers!
–Sam


SDL mailing list
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http://lists.libsdl.org/listinfo.cgi/sdl-libsdl.org

The wiki should be snappy again:

http://wiki.libsdl.org

About the wiki:

There are a lot of posts in this reddit thread about the release of RC1:

… that say that the wiki is so slow to be unusable!–
Bye,
Gabry

Yeah, I saw that. It’s better now. :)On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Gabriele Greco <gabriele.greco at darts.it>wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:

http://wiki.libsdl.org

About the wiki:

There are a lot of posts in this reddit thread about the release of RC1:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1f4yhd/sdl_20_release_candidate_1_is_out/

… that say that the wiki is so slow to be unusable!


Bye,
Gabry


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FYI, we’re getting about 100 spam accounts created per hour. I’m probably
going to add some human verification step to the wiki account creation
which should help with this.On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Sam Lantinga <@slouken> wrote:

Yeah, I saw that. It’s better now. :slight_smile:

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Gabriele Greco <gabriele.greco at darts.it>wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:

http://wiki.libsdl.org

About the wiki:

There are a lot of posts in this reddit thread about the release of RC1:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1f4yhd/sdl_20_release_candidate_1_is_out/

… that say that the wiki is so slow to be unusable!


Bye,
Gabry


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If possible, I recommend adding ‘custom profile questions’ which are common
in forum software (like phpBB). You basically add required sign-up fields
that have to answer some question like “What is SDL spelled backwards?”.
Two or Three of these fields are usually enough.

DOn Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

FYI, we’re getting about 100 spam accounts created per hour. I’m probably
going to add some human verification step to the wiki account creation
which should help with this.

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

Yeah, I saw that. It’s better now. :slight_smile:

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Gabriele Greco <gabriele.greco at darts.it>wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:

http://wiki.libsdl.org

About the wiki:

There are a lot of posts in this reddit thread about the release of RC1:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1f4yhd/sdl_20_release_candidate_1_is_out/

… that say that the wiki is so slow to be unusable!


Bye,
Gabry


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Or you could have a custom captcha, even if simple. To get past those
bots will need to be specifically programmed for that wiki and if that
happens then you probably have bigger issues to worry about.

2013/5/28, D B :> If possible, I recommend adding ‘custom profile questions’ which are common

in forum software (like phpBB). You basically add required sign-up fields
that have to answer some question like “What is SDL spelled backwards?”.
Two or Three of these fields are usually enough.

D

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

FYI, we’re getting about 100 spam accounts created per hour. I’m probably
going to add some human verification step to the wiki account creation
which should help with this.

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Sam Lantinga wrote:

Yeah, I saw that. It’s better now. :slight_smile:

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Gabriele Greco <gabriele.greco at darts.it>wrote:

The wiki should be snappy again:

http://wiki.libsdl.org

About the wiki:

There are a lot of posts in this reddit thread about the release of
RC1:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1f4yhd/sdl_20_release_candidate_1_is_out/

… that say that the wiki is so slow to be unusable!


Bye,
Gabry


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Sam wrote:

FYI, we’re getting about 100 spam accounts created per hour. I’m probably
going to add some human verification step to the wiki account creation
which should help with this.

I don’t think that, or the other suggestions, will work in the long run.
I run a message board for dim3 and I’m obviously much lower visibility
than SDL, and I was getting 100 spam accounts a week. Everytime I added
captcha or human verification step it stopped … for about a month.
Then it started right up again.

Some human answered the questions and went through all the captchas and
added it to some database. You’ll probably get turned off much faster
than I did.

It’s annoying, but everybody knows your email, just make them have to
contact you and you’ll add an account for them. I finally moved to that
after spending way too much time cleaning up bad accounts.

[>] Brian