SDL on embedded systems

Hi guys,
I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run
only my program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.

What CPU arch are you running on?
I assume your planning on running a linux system since you mention distribution.
If you only on planning to run your app really all you need is a kernel and
framebuffer. SDL can use fbdev.
You may want to look openembedded.________________________________
From: mohsen.aria@gmail.com (Mohsen Jamali)
To: SDL Development List
Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 1:18:27 PM
Subject: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

Hi guys,
I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run only my
program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.

This is the device which i want to use:
http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-9363/mod_235FB6C7-A605-4230-B8DA-33F5B4F6A1AA.aspx
yeah, this is the only app that is going to run on this device by the way i
use some libraries like SDL_ttf and
FTDI1.1.0http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/D2XX/Linux/libftd2xx1.1.0.tar.gz
does
it need to take care about something else, i use ubuntu for developing this
app.On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Scott Smith wrote:

What CPU arch are you running on?
I assume your planning on running a linux system since you mention
distribution. If you only on planning to run your app really all you need
is a kernel and framebuffer. SDL can use fbdev.
You may want to look openembedded.


From: Mohsen Jamali <@Mohsen_Jamali>
To: SDL Development List
Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 1:18:27 PM
Subject: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

Hi guys,
I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run
only my program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.


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You really need an atom to run one SDL software based app? Id go for a
cheaper/lower power ARM based solution.
If you can get ubuntu or any other major distro to run on this, pretty much any
software you want is available. Wouldnt be any different than any other PC. But
this is embedded device so no guarantee that the all of the hardware will be
supported. Which may require you to patch/build your own kernel.________________________________
From: mohsen.aria@gmail.com (Mohsen Jamali)
To: SDL Development List
Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 4:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

This is the device which i want to use:
http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-9363/mod_235FB6C7-A605-4230-B8DA-33F5B4F6A1AA.aspx

yeah, this is the only app that is going to run on this device by the way i use
some libraries like SDL_ttf and FTDI1.1.0 does it need to take care about
something else, i use ubuntu for developing this app.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Scott Smith <@Scott_Smith> wrote:

What CPU arch are you running on?

I assume your planning on running a linux system since you mention distribution.
If you only on planning to run your app really all you need is a kernel and
framebuffer. SDL can use fbdev.
You may want to look openembedded.


From: Mohsen Jamali <mohsen.aria at gmail.com>

To: SDL Development List
Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 1:18:27 PM
Subject: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

Hi guys,
I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run only my
program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.


SDL mailing list
SDL at lists.libsdl.org
http://lists.libsdl.org/listinfo.cgi/sdl-libsdl.org

which one is simpler and faster time to develop for this device? use a
major distro? or use and embedded solution? i don’t have much experience
about kernel so patching a kernel is hard for me! by the way ubuntu wants
4G hard disk and this device have only 2G; if i want to use a major distro,
which distro could help me?On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Scott Smith wrote:

You really need an atom to run one SDL software based app? Id go for a
cheaper/lower power ARM based solution.
If you can get ubuntu or any other major distro to run on this, pretty
much any software you want is available. Wouldnt be any different than any
other PC. But this is embedded device so no guarantee that the all of the
hardware will be supported. Which may require you to patch/build your own
kernel.


From: Mohsen Jamali <@Mohsen_Jamali>
To: SDL Development List
Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 4:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

This is the device which i want to use:

http://www.advantech.com/products/PCM-9363/mod_235FB6C7-A605-4230-B8DA-33F5B4F6A1AA.aspx
yeah, this is the only app that is going to run on this device by the way
i use some libraries like SDL_ttf and FTDI1.1.0http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/D2XX/Linux/libftd2xx1.1.0.tar.gz does
it need to take care about something else, i use ubuntu for developing this
app.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Scott Smith wrote:

What CPU arch are you running on?
I assume your planning on running a linux system since you mention
distribution. If you only on planning to run your app really all you need
is a kernel and framebuffer. SDL can use fbdev.
You may want to look openembedded.


From: Mohsen Jamali <@Mohsen_Jamali>
To: SDL Development List
Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 1:18:27 PM
Subject: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

Hi guys,
I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run
only my program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.


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which one is simpler and faster time to develop for this device? use a
major distro? or use and embedded solution? i don’t have much experience
about kernel so patching a kernel is hard for me! by the way ubuntu wants
4G hard disk and this device have only 2G; if i want to use a major distro,
which distro could help me?

A minimalist one. First you should check if a pre-compiled kernel is
already available. If there is one, then it’ll greatly reduce your
efforts. After that, you’ll want to do a bit of looking around to see
what kind of distro you want. If you’re going to only have this one
application do any gui stuff then you’ll certainly want something
minimalist, but this really isn’t the mailing list to ask on. You
might ask on the LFS mailing list (or some other Linux mailing list)
for advice on this.> Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 09:36:54 +0430

From: Mohsen Jamali <mohsen.aria at gmail.com>
To: SDL Development List
Subject: Re: [SDL] SDL on embedded systems

Hi guys,
I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run
only my program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.

Debian runs OK on an ARM with 192MB of RAM and a 2GB SD card on the
Raspberry Pi, so I’m sure anything better will not be an issue for you!

e.g. my Acer Aspire One has 1GB of RAM and an 8GB SD card - that’s not a
million miles from your embedded system…

Just pick a lightweight Linux - or rather a Linux that won’t bloat you
down with 10000’s of packages - e.g. Install Debian in text only mode,
then pick a window manager if you need X and just pull in what you need.

GordonOn Mon, 7 May 2012, Mohsen Jamali wrote:

?Thank you all :-x i think this should be OK:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/432On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Gordon Henderson <gordon+sdl at drogon.net>wrote:

On Mon, 7 May 2012, Mohsen Jamali wrote:

Hi guys,

I want to use SDL on an embedded system, this machine is supposed to run
only my program. which distribution do you recommend that i use?
my embedded machine have 2G HD, 1G RAM and an intel video card.

Debian runs OK on an ARM with 192MB of RAM and a 2GB SD card on the
Raspberry Pi, so I’m sure anything better will not be an issue for you!

e.g. my Acer Aspire One has 1GB of RAM and an 8GB SD card - that’s not a
million miles from your embedded system…

Just pick a lightweight Linux - or rather a Linux that won’t bloat you
down with 10000’s of packages - e.g. Install Debian in text only mode, then
pick a window manager if you need X and just pull in what you need.

Gordon

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?Thank you all :-x i think this should be OK:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/432

Etch is very old now, so use that as a guide, but not a recipie.

What I’d do (and what I do do!) is to install off a netinst CD, perform an
"advanced" text mode install and then not select any options in the
taskselection part.

What you the get is a minimal text-only install…

At that point you can manually install Xorg and the x-server you need and
what little else.

Straying from SDL though :slight_smile:

GordonOn Thu, 10 May 2012, Mohsen Jamali wrote:

Thanks again :slight_smile: I’d do that!On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Gordon Henderson <gordon+sdl at drogon.net>wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2012, Mohsen Jamali wrote:

?Thank you all :-x i think this should be OK:

http://www.debian-**administration.org/articles/**432http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/432

Etch is very old now, so use that as a guide, but not a recipie.

What I’d do (and what I do do!) is to install off a netinst CD, perform an
"advanced" text mode install and then not select any options in the
taskselection part.

What you the get is a minimal text-only install…

At that point you can manually install Xorg and the x-server you need and
what little else.

Straying from SDL though :slight_smile:

Gordon


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